10-17-2010, 09:29 AM
(10-17-2010 04:30 AM)silverpot Wrote: [ -> ]My problem with TFC is actually that there is too few instrumental passages and the almost complete lack of melodies.
yeah i agree
10-17-2010, 09:29 AM
10-18-2010, 01:31 AM
Metallica - St. Anger.... the whole album
10-18-2010, 11:20 AM
(10-17-2010 04:30 AM)silverpot Wrote: [ -> ]My problem with TFC is actually that there is too few instrumental passages and the almost complete lack of melodies.
What do you mean with those two things? There's quite some instrumental passages, as well as melodies with quite huge tessiturae. In fact, I don't think there's another Pink Floyd album with tessiturae like in The Final Cut.
10-19-2010, 07:37 PM
(10-17-2010 04:30 AM)silverpot Wrote: [ -> ]My problem with TFC is actually that there is too few instrumental passages and the almost complete lack of melodies.
Remember the guitar solo for "The Fletcher Memorial Home"?
10-20-2010, 12:32 AM
I agree with silverpot here. I mean really, how many guitar solos were there on the whole album? Four. One in each song: Your Possible Pasts, The Fletcher Memorial Home, The Final Cut, and Not Now John. Not to mention they're all terribly short. I like The Final Cut and all, but Gilmour's guitar is just way too absent. It's really Roger's lyrics that make me listen to it. You can tell he poured his heart, soul, blood, sweat, tears, and every part of his body into the lyrics and it shows (the last line in When the Tigers Broke Free is awful, though).
10-20-2010, 07:15 PM
(10-20-2010 12:32 AM)hunter21291 Wrote: [ -> ]I agree with silverpot here. I mean really, how many guitar solos were there on the whole album? Four. One in each song: Your Possible Pasts, The Fletcher Memorial Home, The Final Cut, and Not Now John. Not to mention they're all terribly short. I like The Final Cut and all, but Gilmour's guitar is just way too absent. It's really Roger's lyrics that make me listen to it. You can tell he poured his heart, soul, blood, sweat, tears, and every part of his body into the lyrics and it shows (the last line in When the Tigers Broke Free is awful, though).
Actually theres a short solo in The Post War Dream, and The Gunners Dream has an amazing Saxaphone Solo.
EDIT: I guess when it really boils down to it everyone has there own taste's. Personally, I think TFC is much more valuable then AMLOR anyday of the week. But I could see why most people wouldnt agree.
10-20-2010, 11:09 PM
That's why I said guitar solos, which I believe are quintessential to any Floyd album. I love the sax solo in The Gunner's Dream (fantastic song, by the way), but it's really Gilmour's guitar that completes each album for me, which he was not utilized enough. I love the lyrics and the theme of TFC and I respect it for its ambition, but it's very musically lacking. Roger tries to drive his point across a little too much and forgets it's the music that makes the album, not the lyrics and concept.
I'm a huge advocate of AMLOR because it doesn't really care about the lyrics or having an overarching concept. It was all about bringing back that Pink Floyd sound that was lacking during the Waters led era. Sure it's just as much Gilmour's self-indulgence like Waters to TFC, but at least the music was awesome.
I'm a huge advocate of AMLOR because it doesn't really care about the lyrics or having an overarching concept. It was all about bringing back that Pink Floyd sound that was lacking during the Waters led era. Sure it's just as much Gilmour's self-indulgence like Waters to TFC, but at least the music was awesome.
10-21-2010, 09:39 AM
Guitar solos are overrated in my opinion. The problem is that - despite the fact that they sound brilliant and I love listening to them - they don't really have anything to say. They're very melodic, and stick to carefully written compositions, which also does not allow much room for emotion to be added to it. It's David's style and I love it, but whole albums of such solos can get pretty boring. (That's one of the reasons why I dislike Pink Floyd's last two studio albums.)
On another note, guitar solos aren't mandatory for Pink Floyd albums at all. They're not even essential. Albums like Ummagumma, The Piper at the Gates of Dawn, A Saucerful of Secrets and More have no need for guitar solos to be amazing. Not every album can be another version of Wish You Were Here.
On another note, guitar solos aren't mandatory for Pink Floyd albums at all. They're not even essential. Albums like Ummagumma, The Piper at the Gates of Dawn, A Saucerful of Secrets and More have no need for guitar solos to be amazing. Not every album can be another version of Wish You Were Here.
10-22-2010, 09:36 AM
I love guitar solos. To diminish the guitar presence in rock music is like taking away the violins in a classical concerto.
10-22-2010, 02:58 PM
I kinda hate most guitar solos, so I don't really mind their lack of presence. Me, I value atmosphere over technical prowess. I love albums and songs with a powerful atmosphere, not necessarily with three guitarists and six drummers who can play DragonForce songs with their feet.
Anyways, uh, least favourite album would probably have to be More at this point. "Cirrus Minor" and "Cymbaline" are great songs, and two of the best from this period, but overall there's too much pointless noodling about. I know it's a soundtrack, but they've proved they can make film soundtracks and not be a total bore about it (Obscured by Clouds, which is among my top 3 favourite Floyd albums).
Anyways, uh, least favourite album would probably have to be More at this point. "Cirrus Minor" and "Cymbaline" are great songs, and two of the best from this period, but overall there's too much pointless noodling about. I know it's a soundtrack, but they've proved they can make film soundtracks and not be a total bore about it (Obscured by Clouds, which is among my top 3 favourite Floyd albums).