scalzmoney Wrote:I just heard an audience recording of the 9/8 show in Mass. The standout in an otherwise polite, but exuberant audience is the idiot who screams his lungs out for 40 seconds following 'Leaving Beiruit'. He yells 'what about 9/11, Roger, you chickenshit?!' I'd guess that he left the arena immediately what with his objection to the material and all, but I doubt it.
Yeah... the problem with audience recordings is that they tend to only pick up what's loudest, which would be the amplified band and the audience members closest to the mic.
I really have no idea how I'll react, let alone those around me. I don't expect I'll leave. I paid good money to get in. Roger may or may not include his soapbox. I may or may not react. We'll see.
But no, I won't leave. First, I want to witness it all, so that I can appropriately praise and criticize the concert. And also, I want to see the things that made me a fan of Roger in the first place.
Has anyone considered that Roger is doing this because controversy generates publicity. And publicity, in turn, sells tickets? The Pittsburgh show is being aggressively promoted on TV, and when I checked two days ago, you could still purchase pavillion seats. I don't recall those tickets being available when he came through a few years ago, and I certainly don't remember TV ads.
Perhaps this is all just a stunt to counter slow ticket sales?
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Once again, I think that the Gilmour comparisons are pointless. David is David, and Roger is Roger. While I can see why some people think that Roger being over-the-top with his politics on this tour, my strongest feeling is just that Roger is being Roger. I give Dave the same kind of slack. Why do we PF fans always have to compare members of PF to each other, when there are so many other musicians we could be comparing them to?
mabewa Wrote:Once again, I think that the Gilmour comparisons are pointless. Why do we PF fans always have to compare members of PF to each other
They don`t always have to compare them, but in this context, Gilmour comparisons aren`t pointless, mabewa.
I suspect the people criticising Waters the most (I mean people booing in auditoriums, I hasten to add...NOT anybody on this website), are PF fans (not Waters fans) who want to just turn up, switch off their brains, and listen to some old Pink Floyd tunes because in their minds the songs were nice and apolitical (I`ve got news....the pig was never just a pig, even in 1977).
Gilmour is a fine musician, but if 20 years of him at the helm, has made PF fans blunted to politics by the Gilmour/Samson world view (or lack of it)....then I think that is sad, and certainly worthy of comparison.
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welcome_to_the_dark_side Wrote:Jumpy Wrote:I think the pig can be anything you want it to be.
Don't agree on that.
That pig means something specific in roger's words.
I think Roger's words can mean a lot of different things to a lot of different people. At times, I heard 20,000 people singing along to Roger's best words last night (most notably, the "Dark Side" songs). I can believe that those words mean the same thing to all those people. The great thing about lyrics and poetry is that they are often open to intrepretation.
I consider myself a fairly literate person, but I never read George Orwell's "Animal Farm," so I had no literal reference point for the pigs.
Frankly, a giant inflatable pig is just cool and funny. And just because some of us see no more to it than that doesn't mean we are stupid.
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I almost started another thread about this, but there's already too much controversy flying around here with my name attached to it:
As an environmentalist, I had to wonder the ultimate fate of the giant inflatable pig last night. Anyone who has seen the outdoor version of the show knows what I mean.
In that case, a giant inflatable pig is NOT funny!
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