AndersonCouncill Wrote:I've been trying to get this place back up, but its just not working. Considering hanging up my coat and leaving for good...

carefulwiththataxluke Wrote:Steve is right in what he's saying however in my opinion it started even earlier than said with a member named "julia dream" who was ripped apart for her religious beliefs, how wrong was that?

i think its all laziness and people getting too touchy over threads being closed. and its not only here either, over at MO people have gotten extrememly angry (and banned) over us editing posts for SPAM and deleted threads of no use at all. they even go into personal attacks on the mods. so you mods are usually in the right when you ban some people if they start argueing and the name calling. for that i salute you

Steve, et al.,
I'm not really sure what day it is or whatever but I think this is a fairly recent topic...anyway, I just wanted to apologize for my role in screwing things up. I know I signed the "Un-Ban Martin" petition and kind of took sides in that brawl without really thinking...I don't recall attacking anyone directly, but if I did, I apologize. :( And I'm definitely guilty of the chatification of topics such as "The Notebook" and others...okay, actually, probably the entire "Outside The Wall" section. Pretty much I'm an idiot. Anyway, I'm sorry, I think you are cool people and that the mods are doing a good job, and I'm sorry that I personally contributed to making things harder for you. :sleepy:

Peace, love, and rock on!,
~Topazzz

High Mesa Floyd Wrote:Hey everyone! I joined back in June and I assure you I am still very much interested in this forum! The only reason I've not been active for a while is because of my intense schoolwork load, and I'm afraid that must take priority. I fully intend to become more active around here shortly! I agree that there needs to be a revival of meaningful discussion around here. I believe this can easily be done so long as the members of this community come to this board with the INTENT to participate in such discussion.

In my opinion, this board is still a very fun and entertaining place, as it should be! Lively debate should be welcomed, so long as 1.) we maintain civility and 2.) we KNOW what it is we are arguing about. Plus, I think there are two types of 'cross-fire' that can either be beneficial to the forum or not: meaningfull and trivial. For instance, when two members argue over whether or not a band is good, thats obviously trivial. But if those members argue over, say, the MESSAGE or LEGACYof a band, then that could be both interesting and enlightening to all who particiate and read.

Of course, what it all boils down to is this: we are all here because we enjoy Pink Floyd so much that we feel compelled to share our feelings with others. It is a wonderful use of technology to be able to tell someone 1000+ miles that you are glad that you are not alone, not alone in feeling so moved by this incedible band.

I thank everyone again for being here, and making it such a pleasure for me to be here!

Peace.

Alternate Gilmour Wrote:Did you honestly believe that you would not have a handful of sycophant's turn up?

simps Wrote:I think everyone would like to see a return to the relative tranquility that the forum almost always had prior to the Live 8-related explosion.

Topazzz Wrote:I'm definitely guilty of the chatification of topics such as "The Notebook

sea green queen Wrote:Steve is right, overreacting dosen't show much character in anyone, I really miss our people, Oobleck, Seamus, Sly Girl, etc..

JethroZepFloyd Wrote:Steve, I agree that now that there are other boards with the banned members, it is pointless to argue about them here anymore. I now realize that this was the solution all along. Im sorry for any trouble I may have caused here and I hope to become a valuable member. I dont agree with everything you guys do, but id just like to apologize if i made your jobs harder.

Steve Hill Wrote:

JethroZepFloyd Wrote:Steve, I agree that now that there are other boards with the banned members, it is pointless to argue about them here anymore. I now realize that this was the solution all along. Im sorry for any trouble I may have caused here and I hope to become a valuable member. I dont agree with everything you guys do, but id just like to apologize if i made your jobs harder.

There is no need for apologies here, just look to the future and what we can build this board back into. I often forget why members such as yourself even got boxes, that's how bad it seems to have gotten now, so many boxes for so many members, I can't keep up.

Alternate Gilmour Wrote:I'm glad that your dictionary is finally getting a workout. However, I believe the insult you intended to use was the Latin word "sycophanta" for slanderer. The Greek word "sukophantes" would make me an informer, a person giving information. (well...maybe you meant to compliment me) I just hope there is no follow-up with the "I'm-paper-you're-glue gambit.

Sydney Wrote:One thing that bugs me, and you kinda mentioned it too High Mesa Floyd, is when people put other albums down, and lable them as crap (and the fans of those ablums as druken peeps in pubs). It's just not nice, nor does it bring and benifit. When I dislike something like an album, I try to just not say anything, certainly I don't insult the fans of that album. I would like the same respect. When posting on topic such as favorite album I post what makes it strong, not how other albums suck. I'll step off my little soapbox now about that, but I hope it doesn't fall on deaf ears.

Hopefully this forum will go back to what it once was, a place for lively discussion and a sense of community, and not dwell on this "us and them" feeling that seems to be amist.

cevor Wrote:it's not to curry favor, it's attempting to forge solidarity...I feel so included to have been swiped at, that took literally DAYS!! great word btw

(..when I wrote the joke about sukophantes it was just that-a joke..)

And I appreciate that humor. Trust me, I was laughing all the way through my posts.

Kimbers Sheep Wrote:pretty sad, and I'm on alot of meds so this might be rather abrupt...Steve post a topic calling for 'a return to sanity' and a fight breaks out, I'm not gonna delete the posts...instead, I'm gonna leave them there so everyone can see how childish you are...grow up, if you have nothing civil to say, then say NOTHING!




and if you think this applies to you, then it probably does

bak2life Wrote:The Gilmour vs. Waters arguments are getting annoying. I mean, there's no point in putting down any member of the Floyd by saying "The Final Cut sucks," or vice versa for AMLOR. It just causes problems, hurts feelings, and is totally unnecessary.

Steve Hill Wrote:

bak2life Wrote:The Gilmour vs. Waters arguments are getting annoying. I mean, there's no point in putting down any member of the Floyd by saying "The Final Cut sucks," or vice versa for AMLOR. It just causes problems, hurts feelings, and is totally unnecessary.

Which is why it is against the rules to post topics/messages with an obvious Dave vs Roger slant to them as it will almost certainly lead to trouble. If spotted, we may leave it for a while for hopefully everyone to come to the conclusion that people are entitled to their own opinions. If it appears that won't happen, we would normally lock the topic.

Steve Hill Wrote:

bak2life Wrote:The Gilmour vs. Waters arguments are getting annoying. I mean, there's no point in putting down any member of the Floyd by saying "The Final Cut sucks," or vice versa for AMLOR. It just causes problems, hurts feelings, and is totally unnecessary.

Which is why it is against the rules to post topics/messages with an obvious Dave vs Roger slant to them as it will almost certainly lead to trouble. If spotted, we may leave it for a while for hopefully everyone to come to the conclusion that people are entitled to their own opinions. If it appears that won't happen, we would normally lock the topic.

Steve Hill Wrote:.
Please people, until around July/August time when we received a lot of new members on the back of Live 8, this baord was relatively peaceful and, despite being quite dull at times, everyone got along fairly well, (with perhaps one or two exeptions). Now I am not blaming all members who joined at about the time of Live 8 or since, but that seemed to be the turning point. Now it almost seems like too many want to be banned, it has become a status symbol.

This board is susposed to be a community and us mods are only here to ensure that rules are adhered to and topics are in the right place, (and don't turn into dozens of pages of chatting, as has happened a lot of late). We are not here to spoil your fun. If you read the rules, or even if you don't, and break them, you run the risk of a warning. It's not guaranteed, but many seem to be trying to push their luck these days.

I also encourage all those members who are fed up with these activities too, or aren't purposely breaking rules to get banned to join clubs that sound as pathetic as the clubs we all set up when we were eight year olds, to speak up. So many members are complaining it is a case of us mods versus the rest, when we know many of you agree with us.

We used to have a lot of good discussion around here and were often surprised by the age of members posting some of the most intelligent comments, but that has almost completely gone. I know it isn't because a lot of you don't have it in you, but appears to be more linked to laziness. We can rebuild this community if we give it a go, but so many seem to be interested in short posts that boost their post count than provide content. It does not impress other members, it merely tells us that when you post 1500 times in a month that you are either gushing, spend far too long on this board, or both.

Please, please, please, give it a go. :)

I think you're right about either spending too much time on here or gushing I mean we all love the band but let's get real and maybe onoly post when something actually warrents a post and possibly just a suggestion but rather than 100 or more short posts why not just make it one moderate sized post??? Again just a suggestion for what's it's worth and even though I am new here I thought it might be a bit relevant of a suggestion so like it or not there is an idea/suggestion.

Steve Hill Wrote:Please people, until around July/August time when we received a lot of new members on the back of Live 8, this baord was relatively peaceful and, despite being quite dull at times, everyone got along fairly well, (with perhaps one or two exeptions). Now I am not blaming all members who joined at about the time of Live 8 or since, but that seemed to be the turning point. Now it almost seems like too many want to be banned, it has become a status symbol.

This board is susposed to be a community and us mods are only here to ensure that rules are adhered to and topics are in the right place, (and don't turn into dozens of pages of chatting, as has happened a lot of late). We are not here to spoil your fun. If you read the rules, or even if you don't, and break them, you run the risk of a warning. It's not guaranteed, but many seem to be trying to push their luck these days.

I also encourage all those members who are fed up with these activities too, or aren't purposely breaking rules to get banned to join clubs that sound as pathetic as the clubs we all set up when we were eight year olds, to speak up. So many members are complaining it is a case of us mods versus the rest, when we know many of you agree with us.

We used to have a lot of good discussion around here and were often surprised by the age of members posting some of the most intelligent comments, but that has almost completely gone. I know it isn't because a lot of you don't have it in you, but appears to be more linked to laziness. We can rebuild this community if we give it a go, but so many seem to be interested in short posts that boost their post count than provide content. It does not impress other members, it merely tells us that when you post 1500 times in a month that you are either gushing, spend far too long on this board, or both.

Please, please, please, give it a go. :)

cevor Wrote:thanks Steve..I just joined the board after reading the tribute band and covers page exclusively for several months...I started looking around and all I could think was "wow, the mods have to explain themselves waaaayyy too much...it seems to me that you all do a great job at what should be a joyful task...I don't understand the attitudes and language that flies around here...In my mind it's a matter of don't shoot the messenger, especially when he or she is doing it out of love for Pink Floyd and probably not much else...let me know if there is anything I can do to help you all out in mod land k? Greg

wall1985 Wrote:i haven't had the time to read the whole thread, life's too short to anyway, BUT I will say now, im dissapointed with the lack of posting of people, i want to hear from people i want replies and there's a dead air here, no social vibe at all, no doubt next week, some one will reply after me.

azza200 Wrote:But what new stories is there to update on?