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Waters Says He'll Perform if Israel Tears Down Wall - PFOnline - 06-02-2009 07:44 PM
RE: Waters Says He'll Perform if Israel Tears Down Wall - pinkfloydfan1 - 06-03-2009 06:08 AM
Rog Needs A Shave...
RE: Waters Says He'll Perform if Israel Tears Down Wall - Tammy Conklin - 06-03-2009 11:36 AM
I hope he sends me an invitation if he does perform and I certainly hope they "Tear down the Wall!" I am dirt poor and would never make it. Why not interpret We don't need no education as sarcastically saying "We don't need NO education???" I always have. I spend my time reading and writing. And I also DON'T "Watch the news at night"
I don't believe in TV anymore it's all violence and garbage. I told you I am sick of these wars and I AM. TLC
RE: Waters Says He'll Perform if Israel Tears Down Wall - MacPhisto - 06-03-2009 07:42 PM
Hopefully it won't be another complete disaster of an all-star show the Berlin one was.
RE: Waters Says He'll Perform if Israel Tears Down Wall - Floydfan91 - 06-03-2009 08:06 PM
MacPhisto Wrote:Hopefully it won't be another complete disaster of an all-star show the Berlin one was.
+1
RE: Waters Says He'll Perform if Israel Tears Down Wall - DJKalteraphine - 06-03-2009 09:55 PM
If Dave's there, I'm there.
RE: Waters Says He'll Perform if Israel Tears Down Wall - Northville Tunnels - 06-05-2009 08:08 PM
MacPhisto Wrote:Hopefully it won't be another complete disaster of an all-star show the Berlin one was.
I would not say it was a disaster. Maybe the first part was a little of a let down but everything from what shall we do now to the tide is turning was great. Dont leave me now was magnificent. Hey You with Paul Carrak kicked ass. Nobody home, great. Ill take any performance over no show at all.
RE: Waters Says He'll Perform if Israel Tears Down Wall - DJKalteraphine - 06-06-2009 01:23 AM
Northville Tunnels Wrote:Nobody home, great.:D Best version of "Nobody Home" evar. That guitar solo is radical.
RE: Waters Says He'll Perform if Israel Tears Down Wall - Androkles - 06-06-2009 02:27 AM
*grabs himself a pick and walks towards Israel*
WHO'S WITH ME?
RE: Waters Says He'll Perform if Israel Tears Down Wall - Northville Tunnels - 06-06-2009 11:06 AM
DJKalteraphine Wrote:You know it. Dont leave me now was unbeleivable into another brick in the wall pt 3, how about it?Northville Tunnels Wrote:Nobody home, great.:D Best version of "Nobody Home" evar. That guitar solo is radical.
RE: Waters Says He'll Perform if Israel Tears Down Wall - Philintheflesh - 06-06-2009 11:21 AM
Androkles Wrote:*grabs himself a pick and walks towards Israel*
WHO'S WITH ME?
Yeah, I`m with you man!!
A land grab dressed up as a security measure, a way to pre-empt any future two-state solution unpalletable to Israel, by cutting huge swathes into the West Bank.
Good old Rog...give `em hell!! He still cares, that`s what`s so great about him.
Anyway, the answer to the question:- "Who has more right to those lands?:- (a) a Palestinian born in Bethlehem, or (b) a Jew born in Brooklyn?", is pretty much self-evident...
"we shall fight on the beaches,
we shall fight on the landing grounds,
we shall fight in the fields and in the streets,
we shall fight in the hills;
we shall never surrender"...
.....65 years ago today an important step was taken toward ridding Europe of an aggressive Imperialist & racist ideology. In the light of 20th Century Jewish history, you`d think some sort of "do as you would be done by" mentality would have sunk in at some point from an Israeli perspective....
....no irony there then...
RE: Waters Says He'll Perform if Israel Tears Down Wall - kjshasta1 - 06-11-2009 03:55 PM
Shine on Roger!!! TEAR DOWN THE WALL , TEAR DOWN THE WALL. TEAR DOWN THE WALL!!!!!!!!:
RE: Waters Says He'll Perform if Israel Tears Down Wall - JudgeWorm94 - 06-13-2009 11:28 PM
Sadly, This happening is impossible because of the stupid anti-semitism that happens there. this i why roger said it. but i agree with androkles
RE: Waters Says He'll Perform if Israel Tears Down Wall - Tammy Conklin - 06-15-2009 06:40 AM
JudgeWorm94 Wrote:Sadly, This happening is impossible because of the stupid anti-semitism that happens there. this i why roger said it. but i agree with androklesIn the end the one's who REALLY love you walk up and down outside the wall. The bleeding hearts and artist's make their stand.
And when they've given you there all some stumble and fall... after ALL it's not EASY banging your head against some mad bugger's wall... Remember this is all coming
FROM my memory.
I went to a peace festival yesterday and saw Pete Seger perform
He gave me an autograph. I do nothing BUT pray for peace.
But after all I am just ONE small voice ... Forever.
RE: Waters Says He'll Perform if Israel Tears Down Wall - Levi - 06-15-2009 02:22 PM
I would really want to be there if Rog will perform. Sadly, I doubt this will happen. Mainly because of Israel's government, I saw this somewhere, maybe this forum: who has more right to Israel - a jew born in Brooklyn or a palestinian born in Bethlehem? Palestinians were there before jews came to Anatolia. I hate the fact that palestinians and jews can't get together, it's 2009 after all. History doesn't matter, we live in the present, although we must learn from the past.
RE: Waters Says He'll Perform if Israel Tears Down Wall - Tammy Conklin - 06-16-2009 10:34 AM
Levi Wrote:I would really want to be there if Rog will perform. Sadly, I doubt this will happen. Mainly because of Israel's government, I saw this somewhere, maybe this forum: who has more right to Israel - a jew born in Brooklyn or a palestinian born in Bethlehem? Palestinians were there before jews came to Anatolia. I hate the fact that palestinians and jews can't get together, it's 2009 after all. History doesn't matter, we live in the present, although we must learn from the past.I would love to be there. I hope the wall comes down but I don't think we'll see it in the near future. I pray. I don't understand why they can't live in peace either...That war is very sad. They should learn from the past. I'm currently reading Anne Frank's diary. I never read it from start to finish. I just pray for a heaven where war will no longer be a part of our world. I wouldn't be able to go anyway... I'm very poor. Although as a child I traveled frequently with my family.
I miss those days.
RE: Waters Says He'll Perform if Israel Tears Down Wall - Tammy Conklin - 06-17-2009 07:06 AM
Tammy Conklin Wrote:I was going to write rog a letter last night about Isreal bombing the Palastinians and how sad it is for the innocent. I don't know why they can't get together either but hasn't this been the case throughout history??? Tell me true? Jesus sometimes I feel like they should have nailed me to the damb cross or burned me along with Joan of Arc... Why? For liking a BAND??? Kind of sad don't YOU think.Levi Wrote:I would really want to be there if Rog will perform. Sadly, I doubt this will happen. Mainly because of Israel's government, I saw this somewhere, maybe this forum: who has more right to Israel - a jew born in Brooklyn or a palestinian born in Bethlehem? Palestinians were there before jews came to Anatolia. I hate the fact that palestinians and jews can't get together, it's 2009 after all. History doesn't matter, we live in the present, although we must learn from the past.I would love to be there. I hope the wall comes down but I don't think we'll see it in the near future. I pray. I don't understand why they can't live in peace either...That war is very sad. They should learn from the past. I'm currently reading Anne Frank's diary. I never read it from start to finish. I just pray for a heaven where war will no longer be a part of our world. I wouldn't be able to go anyway... I'm very poor. Although as a child I traveled frequently with my family.
I miss those days.
RE: Waters Says He'll Perform if Israel Tears Down Wall - Kimbers Sheep - 06-17-2009 01:16 PM
WHAT?
RE: Waters Says He'll Perform if Israel Tears Down Wall - Floydfan91 - 06-17-2009 01:26 PM
Kimbers Sheep Wrote:WHAT?
I was thinking the same thing.
RE: Waters Says He'll Perform if Israel Tears Down Wall - astrocreep - 06-18-2009 10:01 AM
thats awesome!!! hopefully something'll happen to make this happen... i can just imagine now, him playing the wall while the walls being torn down... wow..
RE: Waters Says He'll Perform if Israel Tears Down Wall - ThePinkFloydForever - 06-20-2009 05:09 PM
Ahhh, Roger proves yet again what a BEAUTIFUL soul he is <3<3<3<3<3<3
If they tear down that Wall and he plays there, i swear, i will somehow find a way to get there! <3
RE: Waters Says He'll Perform if Israel Tears Down Wall - Tammy Conklin - 06-22-2009 06:14 AM
I will try very hard to come myself... If there's a will there'sa way. I've been feeling much better theses past few days. I have manaic depression and PTSD. I really thought I was having a breakdown. I used the weekend to relax.
I have to slow down, I feel like I'm burning myself out.Several Species Of Small Furry Animals Gathered Together In A Cave And Grooving With A Pict... Did I forget ANYTHING????
I'm also thinking about getting my journals published.
RE: Waters Says He'll Perform if Israel Tears Down Wall - lotus - 07-02-2009 11:55 AM
he's a class
RE: Waters Says He'll Perform if Israel Tears Down Wall - bignav - 07-05-2009 09:39 PM
yessssssssssss!
RE: Waters Says He'll Perform if Israel Tears Down Wall - Free 4 - 07-21-2009 02:54 PM
If this show does happen, I would much rather it be Roger alone, or even better, with Dave, than a messy all-star cast like the Berlin show.
RE: Waters Says He'll Perform if Israel Tears Down Wall - Three Different Ones - 07-21-2009 10:17 PM
PFOnline Wrote:the British rocker who co-wrote the iconic 1970s album "The Wall"
lol.
RE: Waters Says He'll Perform if Israel Tears Down Wall - Philintheflesh - 07-22-2009 02:44 PM
JudgeWorm94 Wrote:Sadly, This happening is impossible because of the stupid anti-semitism that happens there.Anti-semitism on one side, rampant Zionism on the other.
Levi Wrote:I saw this somewhere, maybe this forum: who has more right to Israel - a jew born in Brooklyn or a palestinian born in Bethlehem?Yes, that was me.
...Israel proper would never be on the table, though. The West Bank, and some sort of land corridor connecting it to Gaza City should do most moderate Palestinians just fine.Tammy Conklin Wrote:I would love to be there. I hope the wall comes down but I don't think we'll see it in the near future. I pray. I don't understand why they can't live in peace either...You`d think so wouldn`t you?...Don`t "pray" though...that`s the last thing that`s needed. The "Holy" land must be the most prayed-over strip of land in history....the upshot?...the chance of a simple two-state solution (obvious to all but the fundamentalists) has been completely ruined by the parties of God...on both sides.
RE: Waters Says He'll Perform if Israel Tears Down Wall - TeeKay21 - 08-11-2009 11:36 AM
I think we'll be seeing him do a tour in Israel any time soon! The Israelis have defied world opinion since the six day war and I doubt they will change any time soon. I do believe that Roger would do the concert if the opportunity were given and it would be a memorable occasion for any body lucky enough to be present
RE: Waters Says He'll Perform if Israel Tears Down Wall - shotgunsinthehall - 09-11-2009 12:54 PM
I think I can wrangle up some dynamite. Staying out of Israeli jail, that's another thing entirely. I'm sure if I say I have no political agenda at all, that I just wanted to see RW perform, the Israeli government will understand and at least let me watch the show in shackles. I'd suffer international prison for a chance to see Roger.
RE: Waters Says He'll Perform if Israel Tears Down Wall - Outerspace - 09-12-2009 03:59 AM
Why does Roger want Israelis to die?
RE: Waters Says He'll Perform if Israel Tears Down Wall - cevor - 09-12-2009 04:14 AM
Outerspace Wrote:Why does Roger want Israelis to die?
Ridiculous!
RE: Waters Says He'll Perform if Israel Tears Down Wall - Outerspace - 09-12-2009 04:33 AM
cevor Wrote:Why? Israeli death due to suicide bombing has plummeted since the wall went up, who would want to change that?Outerspace Wrote:Why does Roger want Israelis to die?
Ridiculous!
BTW, does it occur to anyone that the Palis would never let a western rock and roller play a concert in their territory?
RE: Waters Says He'll Perform if Israel Tears Down Wall - cevor - 09-12-2009 04:37 AM
Implying that Roger wants Israelis to die is ridiculous. Taking a position that supports a free Palestinian state isn't nearly that radical.
RE: Waters Says He'll Perform if Israel Tears Down Wall - writeroftoast - 09-12-2009 09:09 PM
If you support Roger Water's cause, join our group in facebook: Tear Down The Israeli West Bank Wall
RE: Waters Says He'll Perform if Israel Tears Down Wall - Outerspace - 09-12-2009 11:52 PM
cevor Wrote:Implying that Roger wants Israelis to die is ridiculous. Taking a position that supports a free Palestinian state isn't nearly that radical.The Palestinians don't even want a free state. They want to live under Sharia law where women are property and gay people are put to death.
The Wall has been proven to save lives. Why not do something as useful as crusading to overturn seat belt laws.
RE: Waters Says He'll Perform if Israel Tears Down Wall - cevor - 09-13-2009 12:14 AM
Outerspace Wrote:cevor Wrote:Implying that Roger wants Israelis to die is ridiculous. Taking a position that supports a free Palestinian state isn't nearly that radical.The Palestinians don't even want a free state. They want to live under Sharia law where women are property and gay people are put to death.
The Wall has been proven to save lives. Why not do something as useful as crusading to overturn seat belt laws.
Therein lies the problem. It isn't up to the Israelis to decide what The Palestinians do with their free state. Like the Palestinians are a real threat to the 51st state. I suppose settlements save lives too.
RE: Waters Says He'll Perform if Israel Tears Down Wall - Outerspace - 09-13-2009 12:31 AM
The Palestinians don't even want their own state, if they did they would have had it decades ago. If the Palistinians were to achieve statehood the UN money would dry up and they would starve to death. They have to live like terrorists to survive.
BTW it isn't up to Roger Waters how Israel defends herself. Opposing a benign and effective life saver like that wall is baffling.
RE: Waters Says He'll Perform if Israel Tears Down Wall - cevor - 09-13-2009 12:47 AM
It would be much better for all support to be pulled from both entities and let them sort it out for themselves by throwing rocks at each other. Simple solution. It's always easy for the oppressor to make the rules, suppose no one came to the aid of the Israelis in the 40's.
Memory runs so short in the desert.
RE: Waters Says He'll Perform if Israel Tears Down Wall - Outerspace - 09-13-2009 12:52 AM
Only one side is throwing rocks. The other one is very well armed.
RE: Waters Says He'll Perform if Israel Tears Down Wall - shotgunsinthehall - 09-16-2009 02:51 PM
I could care less about Palis and Israelis, damnit. I just want to see Roger in concert here at some nice venue in the states where beer is overpriced, but the acoustics are superior and I can scream like a mad groupie all I want and not feel ashamed at all. You know?
Seriously though, the wall prevents Palis from getting the support they need from Israel. Roger is not wanting Israelis to die, he wants peace and since the Israelis are far better armed than the Palis, the ball is really in their court. All the Palis can do is fight as hard as possible because they face annihilation. Sure the Israelis would never do that, they only defend themselves well, but shouldn't they be the ones to lend a helping hand with all their resources? WWAD(What Would America Do?) Lol...
Bottom Line: The wall is counter-productive to establishing peace in the region and peace is what Roger is trying to influence.
RE: Waters Says He'll Perform if Israel Tears Down Wall - Outerspace - 09-22-2009 11:49 PM
shotgunsinthehall Wrote:I could care less about Palis and Israelis, damnit.Apparently not.
Quote:Seriously though, the wall prevents Palis from getting the support they need from Israel.No it doesn't. It prevents terrorists from entering Israel and butchering people in cold blood.
Quote:Roger is not wanting Israelis to die, he wants peace and since the Israelis are far better armed than the Palis, the ball is really in their court.No, Hamas is dedicated to wiping out Israel, and has been sponsoring terror campaigns targeting babies for decades. Israel is doing what anyone would do.
Quote:All the Palis can do is fight as hard as possible because they face annihilation.No, they have broken off every peace negotiation they have ever entered into and persisted in murdering innocent people instead. They have many options but choose the worst one time after time after time after time.
Quote:Sure the Israelis would never do that, they only defend themselves well, but shouldn't they be the ones to lend a helping hand with all their resources? WWAD(What Would America Do?) Lol...Why? The Arabs lover their Palis, but can't seem to ever part with any oil money to help out the slums. Wonder why that is.
Quote:Bottom Line: The wall is counter-productive to establishing peace in the region and peace is what Roger is trying to influence.The wall is very productive and is producing peace in the region. Why people want to end peace and re-establish terror campaigns against Israelis is beyond me.
RE: Waters Says He'll Perform if Israel Tears Down Wall - Philintheflesh - 09-23-2009 06:48 AM
Outerspace Wrote:Only one side is throwing rocks. The other one is very well armed.Well you said it. What are you worried about then?
Amnesty International`s field report in respect of Israel`s 22-day incursion into Gaza of Dec08/Jan09:-
Palestinians killed = 1,400 (vast majority unarmed civilians, including 450 children)
Israeli soldiers killed = 13 (including 4 from "friendly fire" incidents).
...Yes, one side is very well armed indeed.
Quote: Israel is doing what anyone would do.Hopefully not, as the findings of last week`s UN "Goldstone Report" into the Gaza War has concluded that Israel is guilty of "war crimes".
Denying the Red Cross access to the dead and dying is not "self-defence".
Neither is killing British and American journalists:-
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l0aEo59c7zU&feature=PlayList&p=28EA310976DA7D67&index=26#
If Americans saw on the tv news what we do this side of the Atlantic, they`d be dismayed by the "state terrorism" their tax dollars are propping-up. A piece on the Jewish lobby-instigated media-bias:-
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=brfNxtFdK9o&feature=related#
As for the "security wall" issue, if it was self-defence it would follow the West Bank border-line, instead of cutting huge swathes into Palestinian land. It`s a way of pre-empting any future two-state solution, by annexing as much land as possible prior to.
RE: Waters Says He'll Perform if Israel Tears Down Wall - meshuganeh - 10-21-2009 03:54 PM
I feel like if people toured these areas more in depth they would understand Israel better. One example of what I mean is that while I was driving in Israel, over to the left there was a walled town that stretched to above the entrance of a tunnel on the road. Before the wall was built it was common for terrorists to go up on top of the tunnel entrance and fire rockets at the cars on the road. Also before the wall, terrorists used to stand on the buildings in their towns and snipe at drivers and pedestrians. These occurrences killed hundreds (maybe thousands?). This has all been greatly reduced by the wall, if not eliminated.
But, if this wall doesn't seem like a suitable solution to you, what would you do?
RE: Waters Says He'll Perform if Israel Tears Down Wall - Philintheflesh - 12-19-2009 05:10 PM
Dismantling settlements on the West Bank instead of building more would be a start.
No doubt putting a wall up will always protect you from those that seek you harm. But caging-in those that have been unjustly treated (however disproportionate the retribution of these dispossessed are) is not a solution in itself...
...addressing (at least legitimate) grievance is.
RE: Waters Says He'll Perform if Israel Tears Down Wall - K123 - 07-13-2010 07:46 AM
(09-12-2009 03:59 AM)Outerspace Wrote: Why does Roger want Israelis to die?
you said it here
This situation in Gaza/Israel/Palestine is complicated
If you are picking on the "Palestinian" side, you are basically hoping for either the genocide of the Jews in the area, or the hopes the Jews can be stranded on the Mediterranean sea and will either drown, or have to go back on ships and look for another place to live
That is what it comes down to
RE: Waters Says He'll Perform if Israel Tears Down Wall - ~Gilmour Girl~ - 07-29-2010 07:00 PM
This is such a complicated issue, and because of that, I will keep my beliefs to myself.
But my real point is not whom I agree with, but with politics in general. I think ALL musicians should keep their political views and beliefs to themselves. Leave politics to the politicians and music to the musicians. Roger Waters is a musician. Music in itself is a language without walls or barriers. It is for everyone. I believe that musicians should play wherever their fans are (within safety reasons of course.)
Roger Waters can believe in whatever he wants, but foremost he should do what he was meant to do: play his music and leave the people to decide for themselves which side they are on. I am sick of musicians and celebrities sticking their noses where it doesn't belong trying to sway the masses.
Just my opinion.
RE: Waters Says He'll Perform if Israel Tears Down Wall - codayo61 - 07-30-2010 11:21 PM
(07-29-2010 07:00 PM)~Gilmour Girl~ Wrote: This is such a complicated issue, and because of that, I will keep my beliefs to myself.
But my real point is not whom I agree with, but with politics in general. I think ALL musicians should keep their political views and beliefs to themselves. Leave politics to the politicians and music to the musicians. Roger Waters is a musician. Music in itself is a language without walls or barriers. It is for everyone. I believe that musicians should play wherever their fans are (within safety reasons of course.)
Roger Waters can believe in whatever he wants, but foremost he should do what he was meant to do: play his music and leave the people to decide for themselves which side they are on. I am sick of musicians and celebrities sticking their noses where it doesn't belong trying to sway the masses.
Just my opinion.
First let me state that I agree with your original mentality "This is Such a.."
However it is my opinion that there are so many things wrong with this post.
For One:
Quote: I think ALL musicians should keep their political views and beliefs to themselves. Leave politics to the politicians and music to the musicians.
Why is it that ALL Musicians should keep their political views and beliefs to themselves? If it was the case that the two shouldnt be put together than how about other topics commonly explored in music? Should Love only be left to lovers?
I suppose you feel the same way about Religion too? If they cant touch politics then they definantly cant go anywhere near religion and its practices.
Doesnt this detract from the beauty of art? By restricting it at its core to certain topics/forms?
Quote: Music in itself is a language without walls or barriers. It is for everyone.
Really? Do you listen to every type of Genre out there? I'd place my money on the idea that you dont listen to all of them. Im pretty sure those are walls. How often do you hear someone refuse to listen or try an artist because they dont like "Death-Metal" etc etc.
Quote: Roger Waters can believe in whatever he wants, but foremost he should do what he was meant to do: play his music and leave the people to decide for themselves which side they are on. I am sick of musicians and celebrities sticking their noses where it doesn't belong trying to sway the masses.
I didnt know Roger was meant to do anything but what he wanted?
What is so wrong about a someone who happens to be a musician expressing there opinions? He's a normal dude just like anyone here who just so happens to have made it big as a musician. But Why should that mean he cant express himself?
RE: Waters Says He'll Perform if Israel Tears Down Wall - Arno Sluismans - 07-31-2010 10:06 AM
(07-29-2010 07:00 PM)~Gilmour Girl~ Wrote: This is such a complicated issue, and because of that, I will keep my beliefs to myself.
But my real point is not whom I agree with, but with politics in general. I think ALL musicians should keep their political views and beliefs to themselves. Leave politics to the politicians and music to the musicians. Roger Waters is a musician. Music in itself is a language without walls or barriers. It is for everyone. I believe that musicians should play wherever their fans are (within safety reasons of course.)
Roger Waters can believe in whatever he wants, but foremost he should do what he was meant to do: play his music and leave the people to decide for themselves which side they are on. I am sick of musicians and celebrities sticking their noses where it doesn't belong trying to sway the masses.
Just my opinion.
Excuse me for going personal, but that's actually pretty narrow minded of you to say. In your opinion, Roger Waters should not have staged the The Wall concert in Berlin? Or even have composed the music for The Wall, which has lyrics that talk about deep political things? Do you think that Bono should use his voice to just sing (because he is a singer) and that he should leave promoting charity programs to other people? Do you think that Lance Armstrong should just ride his bike like he is supposed to, and let some unknown economist take over his LiveStrong foundation?
Celebrities influence their fans. In the world, there aren't two celebrities who share the same interests, and that way, everybody has their own story to tell. The way Lance Armstrong is craving for people to give some attention to cancer patients, Roger Waters feels it's important to bring some political issues to people's minds. People like Roger are able to say things that politicians can't, unless they want to run the risk of never getting a single vote again. That's just the tip of the iceberg of reasons why celebrities actually SHOULD talk about delicate issues. These people have something to say, and despite the fact that they're not always right, their stories are usually interesting enough to be brought to public attention.
RE: Waters Says He'll Perform if Israel Tears Down Wall - ~Gilmour Girl~ - 07-31-2010 07:01 PM
I totally understand what you are both saying. That's the great things about opinions, we are all entitled to one. I don't view myself as close minded at all. I just have a different point of view. Writing about religion and political issues are one thing, because you then have the option whether or not to listen to it. On the other hand, saying you will only perform somewhere if a certain action is required is another. Roger I am sure, has many fans in Israel who would love to hear him play, but as we know, that's not going to happen.
I am not taking Israel or the Palestinian's sides. I am sure the Palestinians (if they are allowed to listen to his music. I am not too sure) would also like to hear him play. It affects everyone. I know he is trying to make a point. I just think there should be a better way to make it. How many more concerts do you think the remaining members of Pink Floyd can give? I would like to be able to see even one of them once before anything happens. No one can deny that they are all getting up there in years.
Religion and politics has always been a very heated issue. Even in this forum I see. People are at each others throats just for giving an opinion.
I also stick to my belief that music has no boundaries. It is for everyone to enjoy. Paul Simon going to South Africa in the 80's amongst great controversy proved that with his masterpiece 'Graceland'. To me, music doesn't have walls. It breaks down walls. Just because you don't choose to listen to a certain type of music doesn't make it a wall at all. As for what I listen to, I listen to all types of music, from Alpine yodeling (Chime Bells is one of my faves), to Rachmaninoff, onward to Garth Brooks, into Engelbert Humperdink to the Ink Spots to Pink Floyd. I was lucky to be raised by two musicians who passed their love of all things music to me. A lot of people look at my music collection and get a head rush from the variety. The only genre I don't have too much on is rap. Some of it is hard for me to listen to. It can get very emotional or aggressive. I have to be in a certain mood for it.
My main point is, I think there are other ways for Roger to express his beliefs while allowing all people to be able to see him play while he still can.
I hope I didn't insult anyone, as I honestly do respect everyone's opinion. I do not find people close minded simply because we do not agree.
RE: Waters Says He'll Perform if Israel Tears Down Wall - Arno Sluismans - 08-01-2010 02:53 AM
I hope you do realize that he's implying a re-production of the Berlin concert. Not just a regular concert with his regular band and regular show... This isn't about requiring an action in order to perform. This is pointing out the possibility of another legendary The Wall concert, which would be VERY redundant in case the Israeli wall is still standing.
As to why Roger Waters doesn't currently perform in Israel; that's rather logical. He may be an artist, and in your opinion he is supposed to simply play music, but he partially does it for the money and publicity. And if he himself doesn't, then the rest of his entire team do. If he has to choose between playing in Israel or playing in New York or London, I think he doesn't think twice. Or do you expect him to also go play in Sierra Leone, Mongolia and Uzbekistan, to name a few? Because I'm rather certain that he has fans there as well.
RE: Waters Says He'll Perform if Israel Tears Down Wall - DrKole - 08-06-2010 01:49 PM
This is a joke, He shouldn't go there what a waste of time...