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- Gilmour - 06-22-2005 03:12 AM
okay i get the impression a lot of people hate this album, i think its great and dave gilmours a genius, this and the division bell are amazing, i love all pink floyds albums that ive heard xept for ummagumma thats strange
and is a collection of great dance songs worth buying if i hav all the songs off the album anyway?
- Ellesar - 06-22-2005 03:41 AM
Nice nickname :;):
I don't hate A Momentary Lapse of Reason, nor The Division Bell.
Actually, The Division Bell ends up as the second best Floyd album ever, in my list! (First place is DSOTM, obvious).
- Gilmour - 06-22-2005 03:45 AM
i dont listen to DSOM very often I only really ever listen to time us and them and brain damage i really like the album dont get me wrong, i jus dont think its miles ahead of the rest of the albums like everyone seems to think
- Ellesar - 06-22-2005 03:51 AM
Actually it is! It's more inventive and was ahead of it's time! I'm not talking about Money of course..
I think you should see the album as 1 long tale/song/whatever, not as seperate songs, but that's just an opinion.
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- Skavenger - 06-22-2005 05:00 AM
There are about 10 other Floyd albums I like better than AMLOR, but it is not a bad album.
I do consider it more a Dave solo album with TFC as being more of a Roger solo. The two 80s "Floyd" albums...
I consider that the Floyd picked up again with The Division Bell after The Wall, but that's just my opinion.
My favs off AMLOR are YET ANOTHER MOVIE and ONE SLIP.
- olaf - 06-27-2005 06:16 AM
amlor sucks equally as much as the division bell
- jamiefloyd - 06-27-2005 07:16 AM
Its ok but definatly not the best
- Syd's tab - 06-28-2005 01:27 AM
It's not really a Floyd album. It was made predominantly by Dave with the likes of Jon Carin and Tim Renwick. the production makes it dated and I'd probably say it's the worst but I don't hate it by any means.
- madlucifer - 06-28-2005 02:19 AM
i don't hate it either but still, as it has been said before, it's definitely NOT one of their best. imo, it lacks the texture and the profoundness of the other PF albums. still i can listen to it and that says a lot. :;): :laugh:
- FloydSloth - 07-01-2005 11:41 PM
I definitely agree that it's probably more of a Gilmour solo album (as opposed to TFC being a Waters solo album). It's a middle of the pack Floyd album, imo, which means it's a lot better than most other stuff out there. My favorites are One Slip, Sorrow, On the Turning Away & Learing to Fly.
- Let There Be More Floyd - 07-02-2005 04:30 PM
In my opinion MLOR is a great album. It doesn't rank up there with Animals, WYWH, DSOTM, ASFOS, etc. for me, but it's still awesome.
- friar snig - 07-05-2005 11:24 AM
I remember waiting desparately for this album's release, and being totally mesmerised by it. It's a classic. But it's way down my list of Floyd favourites.
- Whiskee - 07-06-2005 08:08 AM
It's good in its own right, but not heavy or prog enough to make me fall in love.
- Girlmour - 07-06-2005 01:08 PM
omg she copied my nickname.. damn.
- carefulwiththataxeEugene - 07-06-2005 05:20 PM
Five words: A Momentary Lapse of Talent.
- Delicate Sound - 07-06-2005 05:41 PM
I love A Momentary Lapse of Reason!! I think it's a great album. Is it better than Wish You Were Here or Animals? F*CK NO!!!! But it's still a solid album with a bunch of good songs. The songs sound even better when played live. A song like Yet Another Movie on album is good, but live it sounds soo much better. A sweet echo to it! :)
- Henr1k - 07-07-2005 12:26 PM
I was really looking forward to this one when it came out and I was also relived that we for once had moved away from Waters laments for his dead father and wars in general, and back to a time when Moons had dark sides and the diamond was crazy. Just for a change. OK, in terms of quality not quite up there with the 70s output, but that was the aim.
I really enjoy it, start with the cover- classic Floyd. My fav Floyd cover.
Side 1: Sign of life, a beautiful tender plinging guitar and sound effects soooo Floydian, Learning to Fly a good mid tempo floyd song, Dogs Of War a heavy blues not bad but probably one verse too long, One Slip my personal highligt, On the turning Away, a good tune with an almost Comfy Numb solo at the end.
Side 2: overall less melodic, with refences back to the 70s WYWH (New machine but doesnt really say that much), Terminal Frost and Sorrow are short on ideas, I can live with TF being a mood piece in old Floyd style, fine, but where's the tune on Sorrow?
Overall a good album, on par or perhaps slightly better than Pros and Cons and About Face.
7 out of 10
- AmazingPudding - 07-07-2005 07:41 PM
Gilmour Wrote:i dont listen to DSOM very often I only really ever listen to time us and them and brain damage i really like the album dont get me wrong, i jus dont think its miles ahead of the rest of the albums like everyone seems to thinki know what you mean. i sorta feel the same way although I also can respect the fact that it is indeed miles ahead of all the other albums. I think the thing with dsotm is that it's the album that they basically broke into superstardom with and just like any other band, lots of the longtime fans (not all and no offense) tend to stray from those albums and focus on the ones that helped them develop that sound in the first place.
as for momentary lapse, i've always liked it. i've also treated it in a similar way to darkside though, recognizing that it's very different from a lot of floyd material but in it's own way, still brilliant music.
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- echoofseamus - 07-07-2005 07:47 PM
I like this album a lot. It's a good enough start to a new era.
Signs of Life- Already hear some great Guitar from Gilmour and a good start to the album.
Learning To Fly- My 2nd favorite song on the album. It's one of the songs that got me hooked on Floyd.
Dogs of War- A little hard compared to the rest of the album which makes it seem a bit out of place, but a good solo in the middle with the guitar and saxophone.
One Slip- I never really liked this song. The beginning is kind of mystical sounding, but the rest is just... kind of blah imo.
On The Turning Away- Best Floyd song since Comfortably Numb imo. The guitar at the end is great and the whole style of the song is just like CN. It's even better live.
Yet Another Movie- The beginning is kind of weird, but the rest is great, especially live.
Round And Around- I don't understand the point of this song. Is there even a point?
A New Machine- Nothing musical at all. Kind of a lookback to WYWH, but not much else.
Terminal Frost- One of my favorite Floyd instrumentals. I love the sound of the song and the solos are great.
Sorrow- Good guitar at the beginning. The rest is better live, but it sounds awesome and it has a good beat to it.
As for the whole album, I look at it as a better album musically rather than the usual story of most Floyd albums, which is why I like it.
- mountainmotor - 08-18-2005 02:55 AM
Gilmour Wrote:i dont listen to DSOM very often I only really ever listen to time us and them and brain damage i really like the album dont get me wrong, i jus dont think its miles ahead of the rest of the albums like everyone seems to thinkI take it you were not around yet when the album was first released .
Man , it's a timeless classic that hit people on the head like a brick in regards to what type music it should have been classified as at the time . I think more sets of headphones were sold in the three years following the release than the 20 years before . " I made that up " :D
Sure " Yes " was around then with their progressive style but the album had a tone to it like no other .
There was progressive music , pshycodelic music along with other, then there was ....................... Pink Floyd
DSOTM is the opitomy example of what Pink Floyd is , but it's all good and we all have our favorites .
Peace :music:
- Let There Be More Floyd - 08-19-2005 05:25 PM
It's my 6th favourite Floyd album (WYWH and DSOTM are tied for top, with Animals second and these three always change). 'Sorrow' is one of my favourite PF songs ever. For me, Dogs Of War is the only considerably weak track on the album.
- Quincy - 08-20-2005 06:17 AM
it's my least favorite Floyd album, but I still like it a lot. My favorite songs are Learning to Fly and Sorrow (usually the case for most people)
I think that Dogs gets beat up way too often as being a horrible song. The middle part is really nice, but to be honest, it's nowhere near the Floyd of the 70s and it falls short of The Division Bell too.
I'd rate it 7/10
for Floyd standards, probably like a 4/10.
- mattmc1973 - 08-20-2005 09:35 PM
Is it "important", deep, or cohesive as many other Floyd albums? No. But I choose to look at this one in a much simpler way, without all the deep analyzing, the way I look at many other bands/albums...are there enough songs on the CD that I like in order to be able to say it's a good album? In the case of Momentary Lapse, I really like Signs Of Life, Learning To Fly, One Slip, On The Turning Away, Terminal Frost, and Sorrow. That's 6 songs that I really enjoy, in and of themselves. Any CD that has 6 songs worth listening to is pretty good in my book.
- azza200 - 08-22-2005 08:39 AM
i like it the album Learning to fly is my fav from it i obessed with that song right now i like all the songs on it.
yet another movies now that a floyd classic good lyrics awsome solo in it
OTTW excellent
ONE SLIP very catchy
Sorrow one of my top 10 floyd songs brilliant
give me dsot cd over pulse cd anyday
AMLOR i give 8/10
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- Fenderbender - 08-22-2005 09:02 AM
Its what im listening right as i type this. Its a very good album.
- THerestlesseye - 11-13-2005 01:42 PM
olaf Wrote:amlor sucks equally as much as the division bellpeople cant just listen to the "top" of the music, i agree that amlor at first sounds phoney but if you really listen to the lyrics, often times people will have more respect for the albem, same with DB
- AndersonCouncill - 11-13-2005 01:58 PM
A Momentary Lapse Of Reason=one of the greatest albums in the history of ever.
2nd greatest piece of muic to bear the Floyd name, even if its really a solo Gilmour album. It still owns.
- Azzabc - 11-14-2005 04:02 PM
When I first bought this album about 15 years ago I thought it was awesome. The album has dated quite badly and sounds very much like an album of the 80's - a bit like Radio Kaos which I very rarely play.
It does however have one of my favourite Floyd tracks on it 'Yet Another Movie' which I think is just beautiful. Im too much of a Roger fan I'm afraid -
- carefulwiththataxluke - 11-15-2005 12:50 PM
It's one of my favorite Pink Floyd albums actualy, start to finish a great one.
- THerestlesseye - 11-15-2005 03:47 PM
yeah, i would have to agree with Anderson COunnica; this albem have personal meanig to me
- White Like Jesus - 11-15-2005 09:44 PM
I'm convinced now that AndersonCouncill is my musical nemesis.
- carefulwiththataxluke - 11-16-2005 10:37 AM
White Like Jesus Wrote:I'm convinced now that AndersonCouncill is my musical nemesis.Could be rabbit.
- Quincy - 11-16-2005 07:53 PM
heck, the more I listen to A New Machine, the more I like that as well! :D
- AndersonCouncill - 11-19-2005 12:09 PM
THerestlesseye Wrote:yeah, i would have to agree with Anderson COunnica; this albem have personal meanig to meVery sentimental in ways, Learning To Fly reminds my mom about how my brother went to prison. Its transcendent. It moved me, and in a way, it was shortly after I got into Floyd myself and that in turn moved me. AMLOR isn't my fav album (its close), but its the first album--or rock album, at least--that moved me.
The first general album? The Eminem Show, thank you very much.
- AndersonCouncill - 11-19-2005 12:11 PM
White Like Jesus Wrote:I'm convinced now that AndersonCouncill is my musical nemesis.LOL, yeah. I have thought the same thing at times about you, but your cool.
My musical nemesis? Fred Durst. I'm gonna join D12 someday just so that my prog-rock band can beef with him.
- mikinik - 11-21-2005 01:23 PM
It's a great album and I have listened to it a lot over the years. It's underrated as is the Division Bell. But the sales of these two albums speak well for them. Some of DG's most emotional and brilliant guitar work is "Marooned" off DB.
Anyway, that's my take.
Bob
RE: a momentary lapse of reason - what do you think? - Sveinung - 08-11-2009 11:15 PM
I like it a lot, but just few tracks.
It starts with Signs of Life (lovely). Learning to Fly is Awesome, but not on AMLOR. It must be DSOT or PULSE. Than its On the Turning Away, also a great song!
:-)
RE: a momentary lapse of reason - what do you think? - You CAN Avoid the Floyd - 08-12-2009 05:15 PM
It's pretty good, but not a Floyd album in my opinion. I like Signs of Life, Learning to Fly, and On the Turning Away, but without Roger Waters, it's not the same.
RE: a momentary lapse of reason - what do you think? - OlgaHH - 08-13-2009 03:53 AM
This is Floyd album, but Late-Floydian. I don't think it should be offended. There are also good songs, such as "Yet another movie", "On the turning away", "Sorrow". That's a pity that only 10 tracks (2 instrumentals among them) are in album, nevertheless.
RE: a momentary lapse of reason - what do you think? - Lady Floydian - 11-16-2009 12:52 PM
(08-12-2009 05:15 PM)Cant Avoid the Floyd Wrote: It's pretty good, but not a Floyd album in my opinion. I like Signs of Life, Learning to Fly, and On the Turning Away, but without Roger Waters, it's not the same.
I find it interesting that you consider this album to not be a Pink Floyd album, because there's no Roger Waters. Do you think The Final Cut is a Pink Floyd album?
Personally, I like the album. It's not as good as The Division Bell or anything they did in the 70s, but as an introduction to what Pink Floyd would sound like without Waters, it's good.
RE: a momentary lapse of reason - what do you think? - Pig (The Third One) - 11-16-2009 01:14 PM
(08-12-2009 05:15 PM)Cant Avoid the Floyd Wrote: It's pretty good, but not a Floyd album in my opinion. I like Signs of Life, Learning to Fly, and On the Turning Away, but without Roger Waters, it's not the same.
Then you can't consider The Final Cut a Floyd album either.
3/4 is good enough for me.
That said, I obviously like the album, listening to Sorrow right now in fact.
My favs are Sorrow, A New Machine(both parts), and One Slip.
RE: a momentary lapse of reason - what do you think? - Three Different Ones - 11-17-2009 09:14 AM
The only thing close to decent is "On the Turning Away" and "One Slip" and even those are just..average
RE: a momentary lapse of reason - what do you think? - silverpot - 11-17-2009 11:38 AM
RE: a momentary lapse of reason - what do you think? - azimuth - 11-30-2009 07:05 PM
AMLOR is ok. Very 80's sounding. Not my cup o' tea. I do like Sorrow, though.
RE: a momentary lapse of reason - what do you think? - quicksilver - 12-01-2009 07:17 AM
(11-30-2009 07:05 PM)azimuth Wrote: AMLOR is ok. Very 80's sounding. Not my cup o' tea. I do like Sorrow, though.
Well.......it was made in the '80's
RE: a momentary lapse of reason - what do you think? - Lady Floydian - 12-01-2009 11:43 AM
(12-01-2009 07:17 AM)quicksilver Wrote:(11-30-2009 07:05 PM)azimuth Wrote: AMLOR is ok. Very 80's sounding. Not my cup o' tea. I do like Sorrow, though.
Well.......it was made in the '80's
That's true. However it does sound very dated. Not all albums made in the 80s sound "80s", if you know what I mean. Lots of synths, drum machines, slick production....it will always sound like 1987 no matter when you listen to it.