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- pinkfloydfan1 - 11-08-2004 04:59 AM
i think daves beter
- Crazy Diamond - 11-08-2004 06:20 AM
tied
- Casanova_bob - 11-08-2004 11:42 AM
Dave is obviously more talented guitar-wise
- Old_SChool_Punk - 11-08-2004 05:09 PM
SYD! syd has more talent overall, i like his vocals better, his guitar sound not nearly as good but i like the sound of it, and no one could ever wright songs nearly as good as Syd could. SO i choose syd. NO QUESTION.
- bak2life - 11-11-2004 11:58 AM
DG.
- newagehippie - 11-12-2004 06:23 AM
I think it was dave man, especially with division bell man
- Crazy Diamond - 11-14-2004 09:33 AM
newagehippie Wrote:I think it was dave man, especially with division bell manThe Division Bell sucks, man.
- The_Madcap - 11-19-2004 09:22 PM
Crazy Diamond Wrote:What are you talking about? The Devision Bell was awesome! David Gilmour by far, but I'm a huge Syd fan as well, I just think that Gilmour could capture the mood and make you feel emotions better than any other musician...ever!newagehippie Wrote:I think it was dave man, especially with division bell manThe Division Bell sucks, man.
- pinkfloydfan1 - 11-26-2004 11:03 AM
i am a fan of dave and syd but i think the only thing bout syd is he though about his lyrics but his guitar work was not near as ace as dave
- BusStopRatBag - 11-26-2004 11:12 AM
Dave...
he just has that certain style no one can re create
- pinkfloydfan1 - 11-26-2004 11:20 AM
ye totally
- randomness - 11-29-2004 08:38 AM
i say dave, but then syd didnt do as much stuff as dave endied up doing, for all we know syd could have been 10 times better, but we'll never know.
- Floydfan001 - 11-29-2004 10:36 AM
Quote:i say dave, but then syd didnt do as much stuff as dave endied up doing, for all we know syd could have been 10 times better, but we'll never know.
I like Dave because of his unique sound and he was probably better live than Syd as well. The world may never know.
- Pink_Layne - 11-29-2004 02:39 PM
This is a silly question, i can't answer it.
Both of them gave too much for Pink Floyd!!
I can't separate them
- Old_SChool_Punk - 11-29-2004 04:46 PM
Syd...
Syd
SYD!
- Oobleck42 - 12-14-2004 04:32 PM
Dave is a better musician but Syd was a much better songwriter.
- carefulwiththataxeEugene - 12-14-2004 09:32 PM
Dave can't write decent lyrics to save his ass. He can write music for Roger like no one else, but as far as writing his own stuff he is far below Syd. Witness the fact that on the Division Bell (which does suck indeed), he needed his wife and several others to help him with the lyrics. He had one triumph, Childhood's End, and that's it. Sorry, Dave.
But then, Syd couldn't play guitar like Dave to save his ass, so I guess it all evens out.
- Kimbers Sheep - 12-15-2004 12:08 AM
ok, is this about guitar talent or overall, I mean in my opinion while Syd was certainly very innovative as a guitarist he is no where near Dave's category...songwriting the exact opposite, but since this is in Guitar I must assume we are talking about guitar talent...no contest there IMO...Dave
- Steph - 12-15-2004 06:13 AM
Sorry ,Syd fans , but Syd wasn't , and never could have been in Gilmour's league....... Let's face it.......not many are...
- Flying_High - 01-04-2005 04:32 AM
Oobleck42 Wrote:Dave is a better musician but Syd was a much better songwriter.Exactly :;):
- sea green queen - 01-09-2005 05:42 AM
Oobleck42 Wrote:Dave is a better musician but Syd was a much better songwriter.Syds vocal & lyrics was better....
- Gem - 01-15-2005 04:51 PM
Gilmour
- PinkSchism - 01-16-2005 12:51 AM
sea green queen Wrote:That makes me laugh.Oobleck42 Wrote:Dave is a better musician but Syd was a much better songwriter.Syds vocal & lyrics was better....
- sea green queen - 01-17-2005 06:48 AM
It should, they never fully filled Syd's shoes...
- carefulwiththataxluke - 01-22-2005 11:18 PM
No contest Dave G.
O yeah!
- SOYCD123 - 01-23-2005 01:41 PM
Personally Dave and Syd have to completely diffeerent sounds and you can't compare the 2 its like comparing Kirk Hammett (Metallica) and Alex Lifeson (Rush) but if I had to pick I would have to pick Gilmour.
- sea green queen - 01-24-2005 03:58 PM
SOYCD123 Wrote:Personally Dave and Syd have to completely diffeerent sounds and you can't compare the 2 its like comparing Kirk Hammett (Metallica) and Alex Lifeson (Rush) but if I had to pick I would have to pick Gilmour.Very true, both ars great at their style, DG isn't as talented at creating lyrics as Syd was.
- Brightwhite22 - 02-13-2005 07:31 PM
Gilmour by far.......If you are a guitar player and know the feeling of good music, then you'd understand.. :)
- Bar - 02-14-2005 02:45 AM
Agreed, Gilmour is miles better, no contest. Although, Syd had a very unique style.
- pfloydette - 02-14-2005 03:34 PM
I like Dave better than Syd too. In my opinion, Dave is a bit more precise guitarist than Syd, plus Syd didn't get the chance to evolve along with the Floyd and develop his skill to its full extent. This doesn't mean I don't appreciate Syd's work. It's just that I like Dave's style better.
- AmazingPudding - 02-15-2005 12:19 PM
yah that's a really hard question to answer because musically they are very different people. once dave came in they sort of evolved a completely different sound from syd's. nevertheless i chose dave :upside: hard choice though
- GRAPHITE_BLIMPS - 04-27-2005 06:10 PM
In my opinion David's a much better guitarist. He plays solos longer and the riffs he comes up with are more complex. Maybe Syd didn't like having the guitar up front like Gilmour but Syd is still quiet talented. All in all... Dave is more talented.
- Delicate Sound - 04-27-2005 10:16 PM
Syd is great and all, but David played a huge role in the Floyd, he's the reason Floyd was able to go on and make albums like Meddle,Dark Side,Wish You Were Here,Animals,The Wall. You listen to Syd play guitar on Piper and he sounds pretty good, but you listen to Dave on Saucerful and you can tell right away he's a much better guitarist. Do you really think Syd could have created a better sound for the Floyd on albums like Dark Side, Wish You Were Here and The Wall? No Way!! Syd wrote good lyrics, but they were a little too childish and pop. Both David and obviously Roger were much better at writing lyrics and they just carefully crafted such great albums. I don't think Syd could have done such things.
- Alternate Gilmour - 04-28-2005 07:24 AM
It's morning and I am watching two snails racing across a clay pot. A bluebird is watching either me or the race....for a sec.
It flys away
- pinkfloydfan1 - 04-28-2005 07:48 AM
Alternate Gilmour Wrote:It's morning and I am watching two snails racing across a clay pot. A bluebird is watching either me or the race....for a sec.sort urself out
It flys away
- Gilmour911 - 04-28-2005 01:19 PM
Crazy Diamond Wrote:lmao! :laugh: I totally agree. Anyway, DG. Gilmour was just a better musician. It's as simple as that. Listen to Syd's stuff. It's good, but Gilmour's music is just more musical, and more original. If you know what I mean, because The Piper was more mainstream for the time.newagehippie Wrote:I think it was dave man, especially with division bell manThe Division Bell sucks, man.
- pinkfloydfan1 - 05-01-2005 08:09 AM
what you talking bout division bell was ace
- S.H.E.E.P - 05-02-2005 04:28 PM
i think daves better but i havnt heard enough by syd to be 100 % about this but from what ive heard DAVE!!
- floydfan - 05-03-2005 11:55 AM
Dave is (or was) of course a better GUITARIST than Syd, now songwritingwise that would be another thing :)
- Gilmour911 - 05-03-2005 05:27 PM
pinkfloydfan1 Wrote:what you talking bout division bell was aceI respect your opinion, but it just didn't live up to the original Pink Floyd standards. There were a couple good songs, but it just wasn't Pink Floyd. Roger made a major contribution. Maybe not musically, but he made some incredible lyrics.
Anyway, yeah, Gilmour may be slowly going. His songwriting certainly isn't great, but like I've said before, 1977 was an excelleny year for Gilmour, so it pains me to say that he just isn't so great anymore. ('Cause I just loved his solo album.) I think he is still musically better than syd.
- pinkfloydfan1 - 05-04-2005 01:27 AM
i know what you mean it is awfully mellow but its still a great album
- uni_vibe83 - 05-11-2005 02:46 PM
Dave all the way!
You have to remember that there would be no Gilmour/Floyd without Barrett to start. In the same respect, there would also be no Barrett without Gilmour because Dave actually taught Syd how to play guitar when they stayed in Francebefre Floyd existed.
- pinkfloydfan1 - 05-13-2005 05:01 AM
ye agreed
- lime and limpid green - 05-14-2005 10:51 AM
Quote:What are you talking about? The Devision Bell was awesome!
Quote:what you talking bout division bell was ace
Gilmour911
I find it very interesting that both of you used the word WAS in these sentences. Oh, and we're talking about TDB not being up to Pink Floyd standards. (and cheesy IMHO)
Quote:Syd wrote good lyrics, but they were a little too childish and pop. Both David and obviously Roger were much better at writing lyrics
Wrong!
Quote:With all due respect to the people who went out and bought those records, they are just rubbish. Particularly The Division Bell; it's just nonsense from beginning to end. Eric Stewart of 10cc told me how he got a phone call from Dave Gilmour where Dave said, "We're trying to make a new record, and we need a concept. Got any ideas?" It was funny, and it really pissed me off at the time. It pissed me off that no one saw through any of that. But I think history is starting to show that none of that stuff is really lasting. The last record was kind of pure ''Spinal Tap.'' Dave got his new wife to write lyrics!
Roger Waters
Quote:Dave is (or was) of course a better GUITARIST than Syd, now songwritingwise that would be another thing
Exactly!
I've also heard Roger say that for Ummagumma studio album Dave asked Roger to write the lyrics for him on The Narrow Way. Roger simply said no, but I have a feeling Dave "borrowed" lyrical "ideas" from somebody.
And we all know that on TDB Dave got help from anybody he could (pathetic). I might listen to it if Dave took it upon himself with Rick. (then again, I wouldn't :sleepy: )
P.S. I do not hate Dave. In fact I love all 5 Members and Pink Floyd 1979 and before.
Quote:It's good, but Gilmour's music is just more musical, and more original.
I don't think I agree with this either. TPATGOD couldn't be more original IMO.
I do think some of you need to back up your statements and opinions with a little more research or knowledge.
- pinkfloydfan1 - 06-08-2005 01:11 PM
im intrested in what some people are saying not just that gilmour cos hes a genious its more gilmour he has a certain tone we all like or his guitar work was really precise and much diffrent to barrets im glad everyones not just sayin gilmour cos hes good
soz if thar didnt make sense
but wot im trying to say is im glad people are giving diffrent reasons than everyone sayin gilmour cos hes amazing
- AndersonCouncill - 06-09-2005 09:15 AM
Gilmour is more talented but Syd was more creative. They are equal in my opinion.
- Skavenger - 06-20-2005 11:40 AM
MY GOD!
51-4...I think David is the greatest, but Syd isn't THAT much worse. He was very innovative.
- Philintheflesh - 06-20-2005 08:10 PM
[color=Deep Fix]This is purely a guitar mesg.board right?
So, my vote for Dave still stands.
He is technically lightyears ahead.
He used to teach Syd Stones licks in their lunchbreaks, at Cambridge Tech, BEFORE Floyd were formed.
Gilmour has said that, on hearing "Piper" he heard guitar licks that he KNEW came from him!!
Creatively,as a song-writer, it has to be Syd.
Even Roger has to work at it, but with Syd, the songs just fell out of him, effortlessly.[/color]
- AndersonCouncill - 06-20-2005 09:56 PM
Can't compare them. There apples and oranges.
- Ellesar - 06-22-2005 12:24 AM
David.
Syd had some great stuff, but overall I think David is better.
- Pato - 06-22-2005 11:43 AM
- jamiefloyd - 06-23-2005 08:27 AM
i think dave was better but then syd was a great song writer hard to choose but since its a guitar poll dave is better
- Syd's tab - 06-23-2005 11:47 AM
Dave's up there with the best of them guitar wise and I think his vocals are more solid but he couldn't write lyrics and, good as Division Bell is, it took him seven years to write
- Gilmour Is God - 06-28-2005 10:06 AM
Could syd have done ANYTHING close to Money, ABITW, Com Numb?? No. Gilmour wins, hands, wrists and elbows down
- Mattias_hallberg - 07-01-2005 12:26 PM
yes dave might be the better on guitar but syd is the ultimate band member he sings good he writes good and he plays good and dave can't beat that
- pinkfloydfan1 - 07-11-2005 04:57 AM
Mattias_hallberg Wrote:yes dave might be the better on guitar but syd is the ultimate band member he sings good he writes good and he plays good and dave can't beat thatwell dave has look at the results
- Zeppelin Floyd - 07-11-2005 07:12 AM
i didnt really like syd's floyd stuff, but i did like his solo stuff alot. but id have to say that gilmour is better
- paulintheflesh - 07-12-2005 01:01 PM
jamiefloyd Wrote:i think dave was better but then syd was a great song writer hard to chooseVery true
Philintheflesh Wrote:Creatively,as a song-writer, it has to be Syd.Also true
Even Roger has to work at it, but with Syd, the songs just fell out of him, effortlessly.
Syd was an excellent song writer and guitarist but the guitar sounds, tunes, songs, etc. played by Gilmour were much better. So my vote goes to Dave. (Seems to be repeatative, doesn't it)
- Jfloydian - 07-12-2005 03:01 PM
They are both equally as talented...in diffrent ways.
- Sadie - 07-12-2005 04:11 PM
Gilmour is a pioneer. His guitar work is very distinct and his musical experimentation was groundbreaking. Syd was good, and who knows what he would have accompished had he went on, but what little he did do doesn't compare to Gilmour.
- Metabog - 07-20-2005 02:17 AM
Dave, by far. Syd Barrett was great, but not really that great, I don't know why you all consider him some kind of god. I have been also until a few days ago, but then I realised that his guitar work is not good at all. Ahh, the lyrics, well, that's a different story. He should have continued as PF lyricst, but then we wouldn't have the almighty Roger.
But he's not a very good guitar player. In his solo albums, on one of his songs, I don't remember which one, he hits this truly awfull chord, ugh.
- pinkfloydfan1 - 07-31-2005 06:11 AM
ye listen to the song he wrote called flaming that is awfull
- zzz0sa - 08-09-2005 12:32 AM
Since this is in the guitar forum I'm just guessing the question is "who is more talented in playing?" In that case, its definitely Gilmour. But in terms of imagination and lyrics I would definitely give it to Syd. I think Syd was much better at making entire musical pieces (songs) than Dave. In terms of who had a better voice its really hard to say, both of them have very good voices but if I had to pick one it'd be Dave. So I think its more of a taste thing than just looking at the "facts": you have Barrett who was much more skilled at the whole area of producing and creating music, a good writer of lyrics and a good singer in his own right, and then you have Gilmour who was much more skilled at the actual guitar playing and solo writing and had a really good voice but didn't do much of anything else.
- JethroZepFloyd - 08-13-2005 09:52 AM
Dave is by far the better guitarist.
- Stone Magnet - 08-13-2005 11:37 PM
Dave murders Syd at guitar. They're in completely different leagues.
- Philintheflesh - 08-13-2005 11:52 PM
As a guitarist-clearly David Gilmour (pointless to refute it)
As an artist - Syd Barrett (this is actually more important)
- Lynz - 08-15-2005 12:12 PM
Dave!
- King Bee - 08-15-2005 05:46 PM
dave... he is more creative and his solos are amazing where syd plays just power chords. although as somebody said before Syd is a better musical artist
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- etphonehomeyo - 08-15-2005 07:52 PM
syd is a million times better
- etphonehomeyo - 08-15-2005 08:01 PM
pinkfloydfan1 Wrote:ye listen to the song he wrote called flaming that is awfullno way. dave couldn't write a song as good as "flaming" if he got help from every song writer on the planet.
- Sydney - 08-16-2005 07:10 AM
Actually wasn't it Dave who taught Syd how to play, I'm pretty sure that's right. I voted for Syd, just because he's so creative, and such a brilliant artist in general.
- etphonehomeyo - 08-16-2005 12:50 PM
Philintheflesh Wrote:As a guitarist-clearly David Gilmour (pointless to refute it)i agree with you
As an artist - Syd Barrett (this is actually more important)
- King Bee - 08-17-2005 06:08 PM
theres no way dave could have taught syd guitar
- Sydney - 08-17-2005 07:44 PM
Why do you say that? They grew up together...I read that in a biography of Syd...
- Alternate Gilmour - 08-18-2005 02:13 PM
it's true.
- Alternate Gilmour - 08-18-2005 02:20 PM
Syd had (past tense) some talent, on a level of a Donovan or a Arlo Guthrie. If his talent had matured it may have been on a level of a Gilmour or a Waters or maybe Waters hero Andrew Lloyd Webber.
- Scream Thy Last Scream - 08-18-2005 03:14 PM
Alternate Gilmour Wrote:it's true.what?????? that your a wanker?
syds mother was a teacher who taught roger. david did teach syd how to play guitar. thats why dave fans are jealous of syd. coz syd turned out to be better than dave.
im starting a conspiracy thread soon. in my opinion, david gilmour plied drugs into syd to become the singer and guitarist with pink floyd. think about it. who stood more to gain from syd leaving the band?
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- Scream Thy Last Scream - 08-18-2005 03:16 PM
Alternate Gilmour Wrote:Syd had (past tense) some talent, on a level of a Donovan or a Arlo Guthrie. If his talent had matured it may have been on a level of a Gilmour or a Waters or maybe Waters hero Andrew Lloyd Webber.
Edited - Rule 1.
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- Woof Oink Baaa - 08-18-2005 04:36 PM
Scream Thy Last Scream Wrote:EditedThat has to be one of the funniest lines ever. Classic.
Although your theory about Syd is absolutely ludicrous. I don't think David is that cold-hearted.
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- AndersonCouncill - 08-18-2005 04:38 PM
Scream Thy Last Scream Wrote:david gilmour plied drugs into syd to become the singer and guitarist with pink floyd. think about it. who stood more to gain from syd leaving the band?Thats an awful thing to say because you know its not true. Your smart and you could come up with much better replys.
And your right, Alternate Gilmour does need to get laid.
- Woof Oink Baaa - 08-18-2005 04:46 PM
Wow. Poor Syd really got beat down in this poll. :(
- AndersonCouncill - 08-18-2005 04:52 PM
I didn't vote. As I said, I don't feel you can fairly compare the two of them.
- Sydney - 08-18-2005 05:20 PM
Scream Thy Last Scream Wrote:Sorry it's the other way around. Roger's mother was a teacher, and she taught Syd, but yes, Dave for certain taught Syd how to play the guitar.Alternate Gilmour Wrote:it's true.what?????? that your a wanker?
syds mother was a teacher who taught roger. david did teach syd how to play guitar. thats why dave fans are jealous of syd. coz syd turned out to be better than dave.
im starting a conspiracy thread soon. in my opinion, david gilmour plied drugs into syd to become the singer and guitarist with pink floyd. think about it. who stood more to gain from syd leaving the band?
As for a Syd vs. David, they have totally different music styles and that's being neglected, now that I think about it, even though I did vote for Syd, cheering for the underdog, I guess.
As for David drugging Syd, yeah...no! David came into the picture when Syd was completly out of it. Dave was Syd's friend, and had another career option, that's low to say that Dave valued the band credits over's his friend's life.
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- simps - 08-18-2005 11:25 PM
Topic Closed. Some of the posts on this thread were total nonsense and/or outwardly offensive from one member to another. People are breaking the forum rules.
- Steve Hill - 08-18-2005 11:26 PM
AndersonCouncill Wrote:I may be wrong, but I would read that as sarcasm. The mention of conspiracy usually gives it away for me. If that was sarcasm though, may I suggest to Scream that in the future you use the [sarcasm]sample[/sarcasm] joke container or add a laughter at the end of the post.Scream Thy Last Scream Wrote:david gilmour plied drugs into syd to become the singer and guitarist with pink floyd. think about it. who stood more to gain from syd leaving the band?Thats an awful thing to say because you know its not true. Your smart and you could come up with much better replys.
And your right, Alternate Gilmour does need to get laid.
- Steve Hill - 08-18-2005 11:28 PM
Sorry simps, but I think you forgot to press close and accidentally just clicked to reply to the topic. I know I have done that before.
Closed now though.