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- PFOnline - 08-31-2002 02:10 PM

Here's an article i found on guitarsite.com called "How to Gilmour-ize your strat." Gives clues on how to set up your guitar like he does:

http://www.guitarsite.com/database/Guitars/rec/152/



- wowser - 08-31-2002 03:17 PM

a few thousand pounds later and your there. iwouldn't want too much of the gilmour sound, much as i like it. actually, the division bell sound would be cool. i have a mexican strat with a crap amp, but have a Rat (like Dave's) and compression


- simps - 08-31-2002 10:48 PM

Will you be able to take your guitar over to Santa Cruz, wowser? Or maybe buy a great Californian made guitar while you're there?


- wowser - 09-01-2002 02:00 AM

im taking my Strat but i might buy an amp over there


- simps - 09-01-2002 12:48 PM

Should invest in top quality hard case if your Strat is going to be bumped about at airports. Could get a nice amp over there I'm sure. Bringing it back at the end of the year might be an interesting challenge. Didn't you want to get yourself a quality acoustic sometime?


- Jintzey - 09-02-2002 11:46 PM

How come the topics in this category post from oldest the newest by default but the rest of the categories post the newest ones on top and the oldest ones last?


- Jintzey - 09-02-2002 11:51 PM

Yeah, travelling overseas with a musical instrument can be a hassle. Luckily I had a hard wooden case for my trombone when I toured in Europe. I had to wrap luggage straps around it though to keep it securely closed in case the latches popped open (good thing I did too because they DID pop open even with a lock!). I also had to pack the inside of the case & trombone itself tightly with towels to prevent movement and therefore damage. Might want to adapt a similar technique for your guitar, wowser. You might have to put it in another case (like a chest) if the guitar case itself isn't durable enough.



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- Jintzey - 09-02-2002 11:56 PM

simps Wrote:Could get a nice amp over there I'm sure. Bringing it back at the end of the year might be an interesting challenge.
He could easily sell it before returning to England if it is too difficult or expensive to ship overseas.



- simps - 09-03-2002 12:19 AM

A top quality hard guitar case should be sufficient. Putting it inside a "chest" is over the top. Maybe a couple of luggage straps around the case would be a good idea but so long as the latches and the lock are in fine working order they'll be no problem.

Hadn't noticed what you said about the oldest/newest order, Jintzey. Talk to PFOnline.



- Jintzey - 09-03-2002 12:40 AM

I'm telling you, don't rely on the case's latches. Mine popped right open and they were even locked and the case wasn't all that bad either. Use luggage straps just in case. If you're lucky, nothing will happen. But on the offchance something does, you'll be glad you took the extra precaution. A chest of course is going to the extreme but you could put other stuff in there also to decrease overall luggage if you're going to use something that bulky anyway.

I just noticed the topic ordering problem in one other category too. Not sure if it is a forum wide issue or just with me. Maybe I can easily fix it in my personal settings.




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- simps - 09-03-2002 12:50 AM

OK, I see you're very careful regarding musical instrument cases abroad. Apparently carrying a guitar case through an airport is the best way to ensure that Customs officials stop you and conduct a very thorough search, possibly involving rubber gloves! That's why I've never taken my guitar away with me. Wowser will probably enjoy it.

I haven't looked at personal settings for ages. I don't really notice these things. I'm just here for the comments/commenting really. Take it up with PFOnline if it bothers you. I only just noticed all the extra functions that are here now I'm a moderator. I suppose you know how to use them.



- wowser - 09-03-2002 10:57 AM

yeah, bring on the search! i'm taking it as my fucking hand luggage.


- PFOnline - 09-03-2002 01:42 PM

Jintzey Wrote:How come the topics in this category post from oldest the newest by default but the rest of the categories post the newest ones on top and the oldest ones last?
It was because when I set up this new forum, i must have selected "display topics in ascending order" rather than descending order, like the other forums. I've changed it to display posts in descending order now. Thanks for letting me know it did this.



- dogpatch! - 09-15-2002 06:02 PM

shorten the tremlo arm! it is a bit long init........


- Girlmour - 10-04-2002 08:32 AM

Are you all from overseas?? (in usa)


- simps - 10-05-2002 10:50 AM

England.


- dogpatch! - 10-07-2002 06:50 AM

schoharie


- wowser - 10-07-2002 10:45 AM

it'd be nice to get these beauties EMG Pro Series DG20
[Image: DG20.jpeg]



- dogpatch! - 10-08-2002 08:12 AM

hell yeah
and again i say, hell yeah



- Jintzey - 10-08-2002 11:28 AM

What is that? Some sort of a guitar mod?


- simps - 10-10-2002 04:30 AM

The picture shows the scratch plate and pickups for a Fender Stratocaster (or same shaped) guitar. The scratch plate is simply a thin layer of plastic on the body to stop the player scratching the wood when strumming. The pickups send the sound of the strings to the amplifier. It's the pickups that are the issue here. Getting the right ones could make the guitar sound more like Gilmour's.



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- wowser - 10-10-2002 08:19 AM

shh, these are beauties! emg dave pickups!!!, like on his red strat


- Girlmour - 10-10-2002 08:39 AM

TOO EXPENSIVE to Gilmoirize :(


- wowser - 10-10-2002 12:52 PM

only 250 dollars


- Girlmour - 10-15-2002 08:20 AM

thats 248 more than i have lol!


- wowser - 10-15-2002 12:18 PM

stealone


- dogpatch! - 11-15-2002 07:19 AM

yes


- pinkfloydfan1 - 07-31-2005 06:16 AM

im glad i came upon this article i was looking for some specs recenlty


- spliffsoffury - 07-31-2005 11:18 PM

are the gilmour emgs still available? also anyone ever made the mod to the tone knobs? where do you get the new componants for that?


- pinkfloydfan1 - 08-01-2005 01:37 PM

emgs are still available not got a clue bout the rest


- atrox321 - 08-01-2005 07:28 PM

Here are my 2 American made Strats. The white one is Gilmourized with EMG single coils, EMG SPC & EXG in the tone knob areas. i didn't Gilmourize to sound like him. I just read what he had and it sounded like a good idea for a Mod. It is signifigantly brighter than the black one but sounds incredible through my Marshall. Amazing actually. Takes the Big Muff pedal really well.

The black one is my main guitar. Stock neck/mid p'up's. Duncan JB Jr in the bridge. She is my baby
[Image: strats.jpg]
I also have an early 80's Japanese "Fat" Strat that I have an affection for and a Taylor acoustic. I'm currently building a sweet Telecaster as well.
And here is me rocking out with the black baby in my band. (i dunno who the dancing santa looking dude is.. lol)




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- spliffsoffury - 08-01-2005 11:18 PM

if the white one sounds so cool why dont you use that? I like the idea of the tone knobs doing more that just adjusting tone, do the mods make much difference to the typical strat sound?


- atrox321 - 08-02-2005 02:38 AM

spliffsoffury Wrote:if the white one sounds so cool why dont you use that? I like the idea of the tone knobs doing more that just adjusting tone, do the mods make much difference to the typical strat sound?
I use both. They both sound cool, just different from each other.

I can never remember which specific knob does what, but the first tone knob on mine brings up the mids. great for solo's or parts you wnat to stand out. the other one pretty mich does the opposite. Blends you in



- spliffsoffury - 08-25-2005 02:24 AM

just a question for anyone who has the DG-20s... considering the modified tone knobs boost highs and lows or the mids etc, what setting do you have you amp EQ set to? is it just all even so the tone control is totally with the guitar?


- atrox321 - 08-25-2005 03:59 AM

spliffsoffury Wrote:just a question for anyone who has the DG-20s... considering the modified tone knobs boost highs and lows or the mids etc, what setting do you have you amp EQ set to? is it just all even so the tone control is totally with the guitar?
Nope. I set up the amp with the guitar EQ thingies all the way down. That way, you can just boost as you need from the guitar. The mid boost is great for solos or anything you want to have prominant over the band.

I rarely use the bass/treble boost. It pretty much stays at 0, unless I'm playing the beginning of "Sorrow" for some reason



- spliffsoffury - 08-25-2005 01:52 PM

atrox321 Wrote:Nope. I set up the amp with the guitar EQ thingies all the way down. That way, you can just boost as you need from the guitar. The mid boost is great for solos or anything you want to have prominant over the band.

I rarely use the bass/treble boost. It pretty much stays at 0, unless I'm playing the beginning of "Sorrow" for some reason
so you pretty much have the sound set up using the amp then change the tone knobs on the guitar as you need boosting etc? thanks for the advice, i just installed mine, but just getting the hang of them :)


- Scream Thy Last Scream - 08-25-2005 01:59 PM

mark knopfler is better than dave gilmour. so was buddy holly. you see, they were and are originals. dave rips off himself.


- pinkfloydfan1 - 08-25-2005 02:06 PM

Scream Thy Last Scream Wrote:mark knopfler is better than dave gilmour. so was buddy holly. you see, they were and are originals. dave rips off himself.
i question that i havent compared knopfler although it would be close they both have the same kinda tone except gilmours solos are better and mark knopflers song writing is unreal knocks gilmour off


- Scream Thy Last Scream - 08-25-2005 02:12 PM

pinkfloydfan1 Wrote:
Scream Thy Last Scream Wrote:mark knopfler is better than dave gilmour. so was buddy holly. you see, they were and are originals. dave rips off himself.
i question that i havent compared knopfler although it would be close they both have the same kinda tone except gilmours solos are better and mark knopflers song writing is unreal knocks gilmour off
thats a cool answer dude. the three of them are cool guitarists. im a fan of the blues and dire straits.


- atrox321 - 08-26-2005 07:43 AM

Scream Thy Last Scream Wrote:mark knopfler is better than dave gilmour. so was buddy holly. you see, they were and are originals. dave rips off himself.
I agree too a point. Of course it all comes down to opinion and not fact.

All 3 ripped/ripping off blues. It's not really a matter of dave ripping off the other 2. All 3 had VERY different approaches to the same thing. Clapton, Page, Beck and countless others as well.

Gilmour has a way of choosing the right notes 100% of the time. He is very structured note-wise, but loose playing. He has an amazing style that is all his own. Knopfler is a tad more loose all around and has a unique sound due to his fingerpicking style. Holly was very loose but not as proficient.

I prefer Gilmours tone over the three. I also enjoy his solos a bit more. Especially on some of the older boots where he improvs a bit more. I wish he'd start improving again a bit more.

Jeff Beck is the only one of the above mentioned that I'd put above Gilmour as far as my personal preference of style, sound and note choice. The man is amazing. Plus his work on Amused to Death is just impeccable.




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