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- pinkfloydfan1 - 10-10-2005 11:06 AM
Updated 23rd July 2007
Learning Guitar
These guitar lessons are arranged with the absolute beginner in mind. Each lesson builds upon the things you learn in the previous lesson. To get the most benefit, I would suggest that you start with lesson one and proceed to the next only when you have the previous lesson thoroughly learned. If you already have some guitar playing experience, You may want to scan the first few lessons to determine where you are best suited to start.
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Each lesson is divided into four parts:
*Theory
*Technique - Left hand
*Technique - Right hand
*Music
Guitar Lesson 1 - Theory
Guitar Lesson 1 - Technique Left Hand Hand
Guitar Lesson 1 - Technique Right Hand
Guitar Lesson 1 - Music
Now Your Finished Go On To Lesson 2
Guitar Lesson 2 - Theory
Guitar Lesson 2 - Technique Left Hand
Guitar Lesson 2 - Tehnique Right Hand
Guitar Lesson 2 - Music
Now On To Lesson 3
Guitar Lesson 3 - Theory
Guitar Lesson 3 - Technique Left Hand
Guitar Lesson 3 Technique Right Hand
Guitar Lesson 3 - Music
Now On To Lesson 4
This lesson is divided into six parts:
*Tuning
*Theory Part I
*Theory Part II
*Technique - Left hand
*Technique - Right hand
*Music
Guitar Lesson 4 - Tuning
Gutiar Lesson 4 - Theory Part 1
Guitar Lesson 4 - Theory Part 2
Guitar Lesson 4 - Technique Left Hand
Guitar Lesson 4 - Technique Right Hand
Guitar Lesson 4 - Music
Keep in mind that the only secret to great guitar playing is a little knowledge and LOTS OF PRACTICE!!
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- Kanuck4000 - 10-10-2005 11:21 AM
OK, in that case i'll post my question from my thread here. Feel free to delete the other topic.
Quote:Hey guys,
I've never really played guitar in my life but gilmour has really inspired me to take it up. I really, really want to start with electric rather than acoustic but I don't know what kind I should buy. I don't want to spend too much money but I also want something decent.
Also, should I take lessons at my local music store? Is it worth it?
Thanks!
- pinkfloydfan1 - 10-10-2005 11:21 AM
thanks for pinning this mods
- pinkfloydfan1 - 10-10-2005 11:26 AM
get a squire strat or an acoustioc
Also, should I take lessons at my local music store? Is it worth it? - -- yes deffinately learn bassic shords and scales them stop an teach urself
- paulintheflesh - 10-10-2005 03:52 PM
I have recently started learning guitar. I have started with acoustic and am I glad I did. Lessons are probably the best way to go, but you also need to practice on your own time. I never liked teachers, so I'm learning on my own.
- Delicate Sound - 10-10-2005 04:21 PM
As far as lessons go, I think it depends on where you want to go with your guitar playing. If you just wanna learn how to play Floyd songs and other stuff, then you should take lessons definitely! But if your more about creating your own stuff and you wanna be original, I would'nt go near lessons! Maybe, just take one or two lessons and learn the very basics about the guitar but then start teaching yourself. Study and practice what you like. Learn the basic blues techniques! Get a chord book and a scale book and just play around with stuff.
Another good way to learn is to practice with someone who is also just starting to play, find some lessons and go over stuff with them and you will be surprised how much you can get done. You feed off of eachother and learn things a lot quicker. I never took lessons, but a good friend of mine and I started playing at the same time and we would just get books and stuff and go over them together. Another good friend of ours was a drummer and we would just jam for hours, you'd be amazed at how much you can learn just by jamming and fooling around!
- S.H.E.E.P - 10-10-2005 06:54 PM
paulintheflesh Wrote:I have recently started learning guitar. I have started with acoustic and am I glad I did. Lessons are probably the best way to go, but you also need to practice on your own time. I never liked teachers, so I'm learning on my own.yeah if you really wanted lessons just take them for the basics and after that just try to find your own style.
i started taking lessons 2 years ago and i learnt all the basics but now all we do in lessons is just jam out songs together.
my parents dont know that hehe. but its fun to sit with him and jam out songs he dosnt teach me anymore really much.
- pinkfloydfan1 - 10-11-2005 02:03 PM
thats exavcctly wot i did learned the bassics then buggared off lol
- Romeo - 10-11-2005 02:31 PM
How to learn to strum up and down.. I find it hard to strum up ie. Reverse Strum.
- pinkfloydfan1 - 10-11-2005 03:38 PM
strum up very slowly then practise gettin faster and faster
- Romeo - 10-17-2005 09:06 PM
The way I learned to strum up was just play with my hands only for awhile since I could strum with my hands. After playing the whole week with just my hands I found my pick I lost inbetween my keyboard keys and started strumming with it and up and down came easy.
- Ran like hell - 10-18-2005 06:49 PM
if you need keyboard parts for pink floyd songs i found this link. here don't be expecting gold though
- pinkfloydfan1 - 10-18-2005 06:58 PM
Ran like hell Wrote:if you need keyboard parts for pink floyd songs i found this link. here don't be expecting gold thoughthat would have be great if omly i can read keyboard tab
- Ran like hell - 10-18-2005 06:59 PM
exactly i'm going to have fun desiphering this one
- GRAPHITE_BLIMPS - 10-18-2005 07:28 PM
pinkfloydfan1 Wrote:strum up very slowly then practise gettin faster and fasterif you do it slow enough with a B chord you've got yourself the beginning of Breath :D
- Romeo - 10-18-2005 11:30 PM
Oooo thats a treasure trove for the piano link. I can read piano sheets easily. I'll give some of these a go pffan1.
Actually I confused the P to mean piano when K is for keyboards piano etc. Now I know not what this crap is on the tabs. What happened to good ol fashioned notes like sheet music.
:Oo:
EDIT: Actually upon looking at them it makes sense now its just a stupid way I think to write out keyboard notes. It is saying the letter of the key to press and then the ocatave is put at the side. Very stupid way of writing.
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- pointmeatthesky - 10-19-2005 06:29 AM
and actually, tabs were used for intstruments like lutes in the middle ages.
so i think it outdates notation, maybe not, but it still quite old.
sorry for going off subject, i just always found that interesting.
- triangel - 01-27-2006 03:46 PM
get a classical nylon string acoustic with a high action and fat neck.
You learn how to play that and you'll rip on electric.
- Comfortably Daniel - 01-28-2006 10:52 AM
triangel Wrote:get a classical nylon string acoustic with a high action and fat neck.my words exactly....did it this way...it worked
You learn how to play that and you'll rip on electric.
- pinkfloydfan1 - 01-28-2006 01:49 PM
well i started the same except mines wasnt a nylon
- ImTheFloor - 01-28-2006 02:00 PM
I've been playing for a while. I don't really have any natural talent for the thing, but it is fun.
But pretty much all I can play are folky Bob Dylan songs and Puff the Magic Dragon. Maybe I can make a niche for myself by being the mopey folk singer girl. I can kind of sound like Joni Mitchell.
- PsychedelicLuciferSam - 02-10-2006 01:10 AM
I have my pop's guitar from the 60's that I started on. It's jsut some acoustic thing, it's very pretty though. I dont play it much anymore becasue i kind of beat the **** out of it, but its still my favorite guitar.
- CowCover - 03-19-2006 10:51 PM
pinkfloydfan1 Wrote:get a squire strat or an acoustiocThe Squier Strat is probably the best place to start. As for the lessons, they are good for the short term so you can get down the basics. Don't take them for too long or you might start to play too much like your teacher. That would rob you of the chance to develop your own style.
Also, should I take lessons at my local music store? Is it worth it? - -- yes deffinately learn bassic shords and scales them stop an teach urself
- I love Pink - 06-11-2006 10:40 PM
That sounds like a pretty good idea!
- FreshBrains - 08-04-2006 04:36 PM
I'm FINALLY picking up my guitar again!
I have no idea what to do, but I know the bare basics because I took a couple years' worth of lessons a while back.
In the meantime, I'll try to learn Money. The 'not-guitar-solo-or-guitar-focused" part, anyway.
- pinkfloydfan1 - 08-05-2006 09:35 AM
FreshBrains Wrote:I'm FINALLY picking up my guitar again!good luck m8
I have no idea what to do, but I know the bare basics because I took a couple years' worth of lessons a while back.
In the meantime, I'll try to learn Money. The 'not-guitar-solo-or-guitar-focused" part, anyway.
- Wings on the Pig - 08-07-2006 03:27 AM
Yeah. Good luck FreshBrains. I am sure it will come back to you instantly!!
- Firefox22 - 10-23-2006 12:05 PM
Romeo Wrote:How to learn to strum up and down.. I find it hard to strum up ie. Reverse Strum.Totally different for me, i strum like a mad bull, my hand nearlly disapears :D
I started learning guitar about 7 months ago, i never got any lessons but i managed (i would recomend lessons in the early days of learning guitar :;): )
Once you get past the early stages you will not be able to stop(well, i cant).
I love plugin in the lead and blasting out those notes
(to my parents annoyance :D)
P.s. i started off with electric
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- pinkfloydfan1 - 10-24-2006 08:11 AM
Firefox22 Wrote:i aint in the mood to reply but its best to work on chord structure thts the most important thing to do with guitar chord changes and structure and of course ur picking handRomeo Wrote:How to learn to strum up and down.. I find it hard to strum up ie. Reverse Strum.Totally different for me, i strum like a mad bull, my hand nearlly disapears :D
I started learning guitar about 7 months ago, i never got any lessons but i managed (i would recomend lessons in the early days of learning guitar :;): )
Once you get past the early stages you will not be able to stop(well, i cant).
I love plugin in the lead and blasting out those notes
(to my parents annoyance :D)
P.s. i started off with electric
but strumming comes naturally just work on chord changes more as its most important
- Firefox22 - 10-25-2006 12:49 AM
:) The guitar can be very annoying at times
p.s. nice avatar :D
- drk229 - 10-26-2006 03:42 PM
Am I like the only one here who started on a bass? I started on my dads old thing that he randomly got but he doesnt know a note. But thats how i started but i have an acoustic and a lead they're real fun to play but i cant change chords for my life. I think i wanna start lessons for a bit just for that reason. (im only 12) I started lead stuff on an acoustic. But i started on an electiic bass. I did have an acoustic electric bass but traded it in for a j bass copy. (whoa that was wicked lengthy)
- pinkfloydfan1 - 11-12-2006 07:11 AM
drk229 Wrote:Am I like the only one here who started on a bass? I started on my dads old thing that he randomly got but he doesnt know a note. But thats how i started but i have an acoustic and a lead they're real fun to play but i cant change chords for my life. I think i wanna start lessons for a bit just for that reason. (im only 12) I started lead stuff on an acoustic. But i started on an electiic bass. I did have an acoustic electric bass but traded it in for a j bass copy. (whoa that was wicked lengthy)na ur not theres a few people i know tht started on bass
bass is always easier tho unless u know how to really play like guy prat ha ha good luck dude
- drk229 - 11-12-2006 12:13 PM
thanks!
- sjmcd - 11-30-2006 08:19 AM
I mostly play keyboard but lately I've been learning a bit of guitar. I was just wondering; I read somewhere that you can tune a guitar to an open G-chord, and I tuned the two lowest strings fine, but then when I went to tune the top E-string to a G it broke almost as soon as I started turning the... erm... whatever that knob's called. Is a guitar not supposed to be tuned above its normal tuning or was it just a bad string?
- pinkfloydfan1 - 11-30-2006 08:23 AM
na u can only tune a guitar to f and f minor you can only tune lapsteals to em and and g minor because they have special strings
- pinkfloydfan1 - 11-30-2006 08:34 AM
sorry i kinda rushed that no u cant tune guitar to a g chord the only way u could kinda do that is if u tune your A string to the 3rd fret of bottom E then do a g chord shape but hitting the detuned A string in replace of the Bass Notes of the chord
the only other way u could maybe do this is tune your guitar to a e minor chord and then put acapo on the 3rd fret as the tension on the tuning is too high for the strings therefore causing them to break the highest tuning u can get on a guitar is e flat and an F chord
as i mentioned lap steals have higher tention strings so they can tune to g and open eminor and f chords other than that i am not to surprised tthat your string snaps
- sjmcd - 12-01-2006 06:33 AM
OK, thanks... I'm kind of new to guitar so some of that went over my head a bit but I think I get what you're saying.
- Grguitarfreek100 - 12-10-2006 12:02 PM
when i first got into guitar i tried that. Snapped and cut me pretty bad. I messing with strings because of that.
anyways.
i picked up my new guitar today. its great, but the pickups get in the way of my picking a bit. Is there anyway i can lower them without affecting my tone?
- pinkfloydfan1 - 12-11-2006 06:21 AM
ye just make sure there no more than 7mm away from the strings and ur ok
- Binki - 12-12-2006 12:18 AM
Hello, all. This is my first post here. First, I have been a Pink Floyd fan since the mid-70s (I listened to it in the 60s, but was too young to start to try to understand it (I still don't "understand" all of it)).
Anyway, I started playing guitar 2 years ago. I can play many songs now. For beginners, try Welcome to the Machine. It is really just 3 chords and you start to learn strumming patterns. Put on the CD, loop the track and just play along.
Another good one to start with doing some picking is Brain Damage. Pretty simple, just find a tab for it. Chords are easy to form.
Playing guitar is entirely based on learning fundamentals and methods, then applying them. I am often surprised at the beauty of David and Rogers simple playing style. It is not over complicated, but it so well executed. The key to Pink Floyd is that they ALL worked so well in creating the music. That said, Davids later playing it awesome and inspires me.
Gary
- pinkfloydfan1 - 12-12-2006 03:28 AM
Binki Wrote:Hello, all. This is my first post here. First, I have been a Pink Floyd fan since the mid-70s (I listened to it in the 60s, but was too young to start to try to understand it (I still don't "understand" all of it)).i agree with u in a way however i would say learn breathe ,mother and the chords for dogs before learning brain damage
Anyway, I started playing guitar 2 years ago. I can play many songs now. For beginners, try Welcome to the Machine. It is really just 3 chords and you start to learn strumming patterns. Put on the CD, loop the track and just play along.
Another good one to start with doing some picking is Brain Damage. Pretty simple, just find a tab for it. Chords are easy to form.
Playing guitar is entirely based on learning fundamentals and methods, then applying them. I am often surprised at the beauty of David and Rogers simple playing style. It is not over complicated, but it so well executed. The key to Pink Floyd is that they ALL worked so well in creating the music. That said, Davids later playing it awesome and inspires me.
Gary
once u master the playing style of them you will be able to do alot more sutff as chord structure is the most important key of guitar
- drk229 - 12-23-2006 06:17 PM
What can help me with chords, I mean just being able to stroke right down with my pick
- pinkfloydfan1 - 12-23-2006 06:25 PM
ok i edited this so i dont get a wanring from anyone although we are only having a laugh apollogies mods
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- ComfortablyNumb212 - 12-23-2006 06:27 PM
LMAO! Corruption. But yeah, I only know G as of now.
- drk229 - 12-23-2006 06:27 PM
pinkfloydfan1 Wrote:just imagine you have a hard **** in your hand that can help and then just strum till your hand falls offI'M THE PERVERT?! LOOK AT ALL OF CLINT'S POSTS!!!!
after our convo on msn i think u will get what im trying to say ur perverts :D
- pinkfloydfan1 - 12-23-2006 06:28 PM
lmao the night just gets funneir and funnier
- pinkfloydfan1 - 12-23-2006 06:28 PM
right im going to wait until im completely sober then i will reply with a sensible answer
- drk229 - 12-23-2006 06:49 PM
pinkfloydfan1 Wrote:right im going to wait until im completely sober then i will reply with a sensible answerThat's a good idea
- pinkfloydfan1 - 12-24-2006 04:19 AM
ok hopefully this will be better
pink the individual notes on the chord break the chord up and play the individual notes and then slowly start plucking to or 3 strings up and down then carefully and slowwly started adding in another strign till you feel comfortable with the way that you are strumming the chord
- drk229 - 12-24-2006 08:40 AM
pinkfloydfan1 Wrote:ok hopefully this will be betterThanks :)
pink the individual notes on the chord break the chord up and play the individual notes and then slowly start plucking to or 3 strings up and down then carefully and slowwly started adding in another strign till you feel comfortable with the way that you are strumming the chord
- Mattias_hallberg - 01-06-2007 04:07 PM
Hi for me that isn't english (swedish) can someone explain what strum up and down meens?
thank!
- pinkfloydfan1 - 01-07-2007 03:15 AM
it means when u hit the strings up and down with the plectrum
- Mattias_hallberg - 01-07-2007 03:40 AM
thx alot!
Im just wondering which floyd solo is the best to lern when you are quite a beginer like me:P
- Comfortably Daniel - 01-07-2007 04:16 AM
I my opinion you shouldn't start learning solo's when you're just starting to play. I'd say start with chords. When you can play them right and comfortable(not braking your fingers with some harder chords), you will find it much easier to play solo's, because you know which chords go with the notes in the solo(or the other way around).
Not every one will agree with me, but I think this is the best way.
- pinkfloydfan1 - 01-07-2007 07:01 AM
Mattias_hallberg Wrote:thx alot!it all depends on if you know chords if you do know chords we can take it from there
Im just wondering which floyd solo is the best to lern when you are quite a beginer like me:P
if you dont i can reccomend a good few songs that are good for chord changes
- Mattias_hallberg - 01-08-2007 04:13 AM
Well I can play cords quite good I think not so fast whit my fingers (on the right hand) though
- IbanezIsTheColour - 01-08-2007 12:47 PM
I say you could try the main riff in Wish You Were Here and try the little solo in the beginning of that...it's not too hard.
- drk229 - 01-08-2007 03:12 PM
IbanezIsTheColour Wrote:I say you could try the main riff in Wish You Were Here and try the little solo in the beginning of that...it's not too hard.Ya, that's probably the best call.
- Comfortably Daniel - 01-09-2007 11:17 PM
That would be a good start I guess.
You could download some of the backingtracks on gilmourish.com.
I think the "slow blues" and "Shine on blues" tracks are good for learning to improvise solo's. Just loop the track and rock on...
- Mattias_hallberg - 01-12-2007 09:25 AM
Ok thanks I have now started to practice on the smal solo in mother not to didficult actualy! :D
- Wings on the Pig - 01-12-2007 09:34 AM
IbanezIsTheColour Wrote:I say you could try the main riff in Wish You Were Here and try the little solo in the beginning of that...it's not too hard.That is one of the first Floyd songs I ever learnt. I would definitely recommend that. :)
- Grguitarfreek100 - 06-22-2007 07:41 AM
tis a good one. Id also recommend time. It gets your fingers moving but is chord based also.
- pinkfloydfan1 - 06-22-2007 07:49 AM
Grguitarfreek100 Wrote:tis a good one. Id also recommend time. It gets your fingers moving but is chord based also.Wywh yes all for it but time i would usually say yes but its all bar chords it might be a bit too advanced for those just starting.
- floydfan716 - 06-23-2007 01:34 PM
im thinking about playing bass i want a good one but dont want to spend alot what kind is good to start with
- Narrow Way - 06-23-2007 06:20 PM
Without knowing your price range, I'll throw out these suggestions.
Squire P bass
Epiphone Thunderbird
Epiphone EB 3
All are approximately 250.00 dollars.
- floydfan716 - 06-23-2007 07:13 PM
Narrow Way Wrote:Without knowing your price range, I'll throw out these suggestions.there was a washburn bass, amp, strap,picks, carrying case, tuner and learn to play dvd for $150 is that any good
Squire P bass
Epiphone Thunderbird
Epiphone EB 3
All are approximately 250.00 dollars.
- Never Fear 33 Is Here - 06-23-2007 07:30 PM
floydfan716 Wrote:As far as I am concerned that is a pretty good deal. Especially seeing as it is a "learning" guitar, in later years you may wish to upgrade, but Washburns are definitely a good place to start.Narrow Way Wrote:Without knowing your price range, I'll throw out these suggestions.there was a washburn bass, amp, strap,picks, carrying case, tuner and learn to play dvd for $150 is that any good
Squire P bass
Epiphone Thunderbird
Epiphone EB 3
All are approximately 250.00 dollars.
Daniel
- pinkfloydfan1 - 06-25-2007 03:27 AM
floydfan716 Wrote:Thats a friggin steal!!!!! :pNarrow Way Wrote:Without knowing your price range, I'll throw out these suggestions.there was a washburn bass, amp, strap,picks, carrying case, tuner and learn to play dvd for $150 is that any good
Squire P bass
Epiphone Thunderbird
Epiphone EB 3
All are approximately 250.00 dollars.
- Comfortably Daniel - 06-25-2007 03:35 AM
Damn...that's cheap :Oo:
I haven't played many Washburn's, but the ones I did try weren't bad.
- Kulvin - 06-25-2007 05:05 AM
Dimebag Darrel played a washburn
- Never Fear 33 Is Here - 06-27-2007 04:38 AM
Does anyone have any tips on how to read music? I am currently trying to teach myself how to read music so I can just go ahead and play what I see. I know this isn't necesary to play an instrument, but it is something that I am wanting to learn.
All I keep doing at the moment is reading it over and over again, with the corresponding notes written above it and what strings and frets to play them on below, although I have the latter part down pat, just want to be able to look at the music sheet and say, "yeah that is a G". Know what I mean?
Thanks for any help.
Daniel
- pinkfloydfan1 - 07-23-2007 01:13 AM
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- Kulvin - 08-12-2007 04:31 PM
Alright I just tried to learn the classical solo on "Is There Anybody Out There?' on my electric and I realized it was basically impossible... any other Floyd songs about that difficulty? I've been playing almost a year and I think it's time to learn some songs, not just scales/riffs.
- Dyolf - 08-12-2007 04:55 PM
Kulvin Wrote:Alright I just tried to learn the classical solo on "Is There Anybody Out There?' on my electric and I realized it was basically impossible... any other Floyd songs about that difficulty? I've been playing almost a year and I think it's time to learn some songs, not just scales/riffs.WYWH is the first song anyone should ever learn to play!
Seriously, WYWH is a good start.
- Kulvin - 08-12-2007 08:47 PM
K... anything else? :p I should've seen that coming.
- pinkfloydfan1 - 08-13-2007 01:28 AM
Mother
Goodbye Blue Sky
Southampton Dock
Welcome To The Machine
Wish you were here isnt the easiest floyd song if all its the hardest.
its not just about being able to play the main riff its how to play it exactly the way your supposed to.
Quote:Phil Manzanera
What is the most challenging 'On An Island' or Gilmour composition for you to play? (Andrew)
- 'Where We Start', because the chords require continually extending your fingers. Although, ironically, trying to play a simple tune like 'Wish You Were Here' EXACTLY as David plays it proved to be a challenge! After a few lessons in his kitchen, I'm almost there!
- Narrow Way - 08-13-2007 03:36 AM
^ I'm glad you posted that quote.
I was thinking that myself. The chords are easy enough, but to do it properly is a different story. The build and release of the lead line is a make or break for that song. Beginners typically don't have that sort of finesse.
- pinkfloydfan1 - 08-13-2007 03:51 AM
Narrow Way Wrote:^ I'm glad you posted that quote.Yeh i teach Guitar as a job and ive had people that can play grade 2 stuff but when it comes to Wish You Were Here they dont even know how to hammer-on and pull-off thats really the basics aswell
I was thinking that myself. The chords are easy enough, but to do it properly is a different story. The build and release of the lead line is a make or break for that song. Beginners typically don't have that sort of finesse.
- Dyolf - 08-13-2007 05:31 AM
Pigs On The Wing is pretty easy.
- Comfortably Daniel - 08-13-2007 10:02 AM
A lot of people do think of Wish You Were Here as if it is a simple beginners song...but it is really hard to get the right feeling into it.
- Dyolf - 08-13-2007 01:23 PM
Comfortably Daniel Wrote:A lot of people do think of Wish You Were Here as if it is a simple beginners song...but it is really hard to get the right feeling into it.Yeah, but Pink Floyd isn't really beginner's stuff any way.
- Narrow Way - 08-13-2007 02:17 PM
^ I concur. Dave's work is deceptively simple.
- Kulvin - 08-13-2007 02:39 PM
pinkfloydfan1 Wrote:MotherThat's more what I was looking for. I started working on Childhoods End so I think that will take some time, for me at least.
Goodbye Blue Sky
Southampton Dock
Welcome To The Machine
Wish you were here isnt the easiest floyd song if all its the hardest.
its not just about being able to play the main riff its how to play it exactly the way your supposed to.
Quote:Phil Manzanera
What is the most challenging 'On An Island' or Gilmour composition for you to play? (Andrew)
- 'Where We Start', because the chords require continually extending your fingers. Although, ironically, trying to play a simple tune like 'Wish You Were Here' EXACTLY as David plays it proved to be a challenge! After a few lessons in his kitchen, I'm almost there!
- Comfortably Daniel - 08-13-2007 09:19 PM
Narrow Way Wrote:^ I concur. Dave's work is deceptively simple.Indeed...Some time ago some one said to me, he thought Smile was a simple kids song.
I told him try and play it...lol :D What do you think happend?
- Dyolf - 08-14-2007 12:11 AM
Comfortably Daniel Wrote:Smile is pretty simple though, I'm not saying it's a kids' song, but it is kinda easy, but I suppose it depends what level your at....Narrow Way Wrote:^ I concur. Dave's work is deceptively simple.Indeed...Some time ago some one said to me, he thought Smile was a simple kids song.
- pinkfloydfan1 - 08-14-2007 01:50 AM
Smile is actually a very simple song but trying to get someone to play it like David does is the challenge..
The main chords are C, C add 7, D minor and F. The thing is even if you play that... David doesnt always play the full chords on the album, hes playing most chords with 2nd or 3rd finger note off.
Its not trying to learn how to play a song as you hear it. anyone can play smile but its all these little things like 2nd and 3rd finger notes that no-one seems to aprreciate.
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- Dyolf - 08-14-2007 08:42 AM
pinkfloydfan1 Wrote:Its not trying to learn how to play a song as you hear it. anyone can play smile but its all these little things like 2nd and 3rd finger notes that no-one seems to aprreciate.But if no-one appreciates them, will they notice if you don't do it exactly like Dave? ??? I mean I can play the chords to Smile, and it's recognisible as Smile (I hope), but I don't do the pulling fingers off stuff, but then again, I'm not playing it to an audience I just do it because I want to.
- Comfortably Daniel - 08-14-2007 10:59 AM
That's what I mean. Those little things are what makes the song more interesting. I know it's just a few chords, which are very basic, but the way you play them is more important in this song.
I'm not saying it sounds bad without them...but when you know the song, you hear somthing is missing.
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- pinkfloydfan1 - 08-15-2007 03:05 AM
Comfortably Daniel Wrote:That's what I mean. Those little things are what makes the song more interesting. I know it's just a few chords, which are very basic, but the way you play them is more important in this song.Spot on you just proved the point i was trying to make.
I'm not saying it sounds bad without them...but when you know the song, you hear somthing is missing.
Its true though i mean if i go to see the aussies they play it exact ive only once caught Steve Mac playing one wrong note during Shine on once but its things like palm muting and pick up positions little pick scrapes and vibrato and muted 3rd and 4th notes that people dont apreciate thats what makes the sound.
Ive lost nmyself at were i was at now does anyone else understand tho ?
- paparazzi! - 08-21-2007 02:25 PM
Kids songs rubbish! AC/DC is simple haha.I mean really, A-G-C-D..Bla haha. And E minor Blues scale kinda.
- Comfortably Daniel - 08-22-2007 11:59 AM
pinkfloydfan1 Wrote:Ive lost nmyself at were i was at now does anyone else understand tho ?Yeah...I catch your drift :;):
But I guess most people don't even hear those things...or just don't listen very well.
- pinkfloydfan1 - 08-23-2007 07:26 AM
Comfortably Daniel Wrote:Yeh thats true alot of people listen for the melody but they dont really understand that there so much more technical aspects that go into making the melody than just a few simple chord progressionspinkfloydfan1 Wrote:Ive lost nmyself at were i was at now does anyone else understand tho ?Yeah...I catch your drift :;):
But I guess most people don't even hear those things...or just don't listen very well.
RE: The Official Learning Guitar Thread - Questions, answers, help - drk229 - 11-18-2007 06:57 PM
Combo amp or a half stack?
RE: The Official Learning Guitar Thread - Questions, answers, help - pinkfloydfan1 - 11-19-2007 05:33 AM
drk229 Wrote:Combo amp or a half stack?
Half stack more dynamics and alot more headroom.
Combo amps dont have enough top end and enough punch.
Be carefull if you look ath Marshal's alot of the newer series stacks are utter gash.
RE: The Official Learning Guitar Thread - Questions, answers, help - Pinkman07 - 01-07-2008 02:10 PM
i started playing about 4 years ago at my local guitar store. Let me tell you, i have learned so much from my instructor. He has gotten me to play music i never used to like, but its fun to play. Anyone who is interested in playing please really consider it. Its so much fun, and try to find friends who play so you can jam.
RE: The Official Learning Guitar Thread - Questions, answers, help - PaulM - 01-22-2008 11:05 AM
I play A LOT of Floyd songs, some REALLY well and others just passably (but recognizably). The "classical" part from Is There Anybody Out There, the intro lead part to WYWH as well as the rhythm part, the bass part to Money...
I'll post a list of the Floyd songs I know probably tomorrow. Maybe if anyone would like help playing Floyd, let me know. I'll help with tab, maybe even make a video of me playing it...
Would anyone be interested in that?
RE: The Official Learning Guitar Thread - Questions, answers, help - pinkfloydfan1 - 01-22-2008 12:41 PM
PaulM Wrote:I play A LOT of Floyd songs, some REALLY well and others just passably (but recognizably). The "classical" part from Is There Anybody Out There, the intro lead part to WYWH as well as the rhythm part, the bass part to Money...
I'll post a list of the Floyd songs I know probably tomorrow. Maybe if anyone would like help playing Floyd, let me know. I'll help with tab, maybe even make a video of me playing it...
Would anyone be interested in that?
Yeh thats sounds kool ive made a few recordings of myself think ive proberly got the closet tone on this forum,
Personally i think its good to start with the simple songs try having a go at us and them theres really good but simplechord changes in that.
I used to teach guitar as a proffesion and i think the best way for approaching floyd is to rather than be floyd to improvise over it then go back and play the rythm parts it will give u a better feel and appreciation for what gilmour does. Then i would suggest tyring to play gilomours classic lead fills and solos.
RE: The Official Learning Guitar Thread - Questions, answers, help - PaulM - 01-22-2008 12:44 PM
pinkfloydfan1 Wrote:Yeh thats sounds kool ive made a few recdordings of myself think ive proberly got the closet playing and tone on this forum,I could do Us and Them, or Brain Damage to start...?
Personally i think its good to start with the simple songs try having a go at us and them theres really good but simplechord changes in that.
RE: The Official Learning Guitar Thread - Questions, answers, help - pinkfloydfan1 - 01-22-2008 12:52 PM
PaulM Wrote:pinkfloydfan1 Wrote:Yeh thats sounds kool ive made a few recdordings of myself think ive proberly got the closet playing and tone on this forum,I could do Us and Them, or Brain Damage to start...?
Personally i think its good to start with the simple songs try having a go at us and them theres really good but simplechord changes in that.
Brain Damage is the simplest of the two might i recommend
Breathe
Brain Damage
Eclipse
Us And Them
Mother
Goodbye Blue Sky
Hey You
Comfortably Numb
in that order lol
You'll find that if u learn the 1st 3 songs the rest are pretty much the same chords with one added bar chord during the verses.
hopefully either way we'll have another gilmour in our hands.
i really have to stop rushing my typing its getting awfull...
RE: The Official Learning Guitar Thread - Questions, answers, help - PaulM - 01-22-2008 01:32 PM
Let's start with the one I have most handy:
On the Turning Away
[Em]On the [D]turning aw[G]ay
From the [C]pale and down[Em]trodden
And the [D]words they [G]say
Which we [C]won't understand
[Em]"Don't accept that what's [C]happen[G]ing
[Em]Is just a case of others' [G]suffer[C]ing
[G]Or you'll find that you're [C]joining [Em]in
The [D]turning a[G]way"
Em D G
C Em
D G C
Em C G
Em G C
G C Em
D G
It's a sin that somehow
Light is changing to shadow
And casting its shroud
Over all we have known
Unaware how the ranks have grown
Driven on by a heart of stone
We could find that we're all alone
In the dream of the proud
On the wings of the night
As the daytime is stirring
Where the speechless unite
In a silent accord
Using words you will find are strange
And mesmerised as they light the flame
Feel the new wind of change
On the wings of the night
No more turning away
From the weak and the weary
No more turning away
From the coldness inside
Just a world that we all must share
It's not enough just to stand and stare
Is it only a dream that there'll be
No more turning away?
RE: The Official Learning Guitar Thread - Questions, answers, help - pinkfloydfan1 - 02-11-2008 03:49 PM
PaulM Wrote:Let's start with the one I have most handy:
On the Turning Away
[Em]On the [D]turning aw[G]ay
From the [C]pale and down[Em]trodden
And the [D]words they [G]say
Which we [C]won't understand
[Em]"Don't accept that what's [C]happen[G]ing
[Em]Is just a case of others' [G]suffer[C]ing
[G]Or you'll find that you're [C]joining [Em]in
The [D]turning a[G]way"
Em D G
C Em
D G C
Em C G
Em G C
G C Em
D G
It's a sin that somehow
Light is changing to shadow
And casting its shroud
Over all we have known
Unaware how the ranks have grown
Driven on by a heart of stone
We could find that we're all alone
In the dream of the proud
On the wings of the night
As the daytime is stirring
Where the speechless unite
In a silent accord
Using words you will find are strange
And mesmerised as they light the flame
Feel the new wind of change
On the wings of the night
No more turning away
From the weak and the weary
No more turning away
From the coldness inside
Just a world that we all must share
It's not enough just to stand and stare
Is it only a dream that there'll be
No more turning away?
How did you get on ??
RE: The Official Learning Guitar Thread - Questions, answers, help - drk229 - 07-20-2008 04:53 PM
Don't know if I ever posted it here but I have a Sqiuer '51 that I got for 100 bucks. Thing is ACE.
![[Image: PICT0254.jpg]](http://i132.photobucket.com/albums/q12/drk229/PICT0254.jpg)
RE: The Official Learning Guitar Thread - Questions, answers, help - intruder - 09-19-2008 01:02 AM
thanks again..........
now i can start to strum ma guitar
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i love to strum ma guitar but, ma guitar does'nt love me
RE: The Official Learning Guitar Thread - Questions, answers, help - TheMadcapPiper - 10-10-2009 10:53 PM
I got a guitar tabs book for Dark Side of the Moon the other day, and I seem to find two major problems with it:
1. It uses weird symbols that it doesn't explain, and the ones it does are different from the ones I'm used to for that particular guitar thing. (Ex. an arching line instead of a letter h for hammer on) and
2. I have an epiphone SG, that came with this little epiphone amp, and no matter how hard I try there's no way I'm gonna get satisfactory sound/effects to make anything I play sound remotely like it does on the album.
Oh well, back to playing If and Bike.
RE: The Official Learning Guitar Thread - Questions, answers, help - wot's uh the deal? - 01-02-2010 05:08 PM
PM me me for info on how to get the DG sound and how to play all his stuff spot on. There are many fools on you tube who think they have it sorted but they are wrong. I know. I teach guitar professionally.
RE: The Official Learning Guitar Thread - Questions, answers, help - wot's uh the deal? - 01-25-2010 04:58 PM
If you want to become really good and make original music with your own style of playing and inspire others to copy you , then learn scales, arpeggios and chords. Listen to many styles of music and develop an ear for what you are hearing so you can copy that and make it your own. Get a few lessons then play every day for 20 years. EASY!!!!;-P
My mistake was being a Hendrix nut for 10 years.
I could have been working at my own style.
Still if you can play Jimi note for note with the same feel then you are not totally wasting your time , just joining the crowds of "bedroom Hendrixes"
RE: The Official Learning Guitar Thread - Questions, answers, help - sammypetter - 02-15-2010 03:03 AM
How do bass guitar pickups sound with electric guitar strings?
This is really just out of curiosity that me and a friend have been wondering. Not such as taking a bass pickup and slapping it on a guitar. More like taking a guitar and adding a bass bridge, or nut made for guitar string but with only four slots like a bass, and then stringing in only four strings. I love playion guitar more, but i love bass guitar tone. Im just wondering if this could be a good idea, bad idea, or could go either way.
RE: The Official Learning Guitar Thread - Questions, answers, help - wot's uh the deal? - 02-26-2010 06:20 AM
you are heading for disaster!
RE: The Official Learning Guitar Thread - Questions, answers, help - emonerd826 - 08-23-2010 10:06 PM
So what's the deal with pompeii? Is every song a half step up? I'm trying to play how it sounds, and that seems to be the case.
RE: The Official Learning Guitar Thread - Questions, answers, help - PaulM - 08-24-2010 11:53 AM
What's more likely is that when the video was recorded, mixed, or otherwise produced, it was sped up, perhaps for space issues. Just put a capo on your first fret and play along happily.
guitar effects - MrFeldman - 06-06-2011 12:31 PM
I'm curious about Gilmour-esk effects. What particular effects pedal would you all recommend for simplicity, a pal recommends a line 6 pod. I know Mr Gilmour can't be copied by a hack like me. Im just looking for the bluesy sound he plays.
What do you all recommend? [/i]
RE: The Official Learning Guitar Thread - Questions, answers, help - pinkfloydfan1 - 06-07-2011 03:02 PM
Dont get anything digital is all i can say.
If your looking to get more than just floyd then sure a multifx is good but try keep away from anything that is souly digital some of the boss multieffects have some analog controls bit in and sound more like single stompboxes.
there isnt really a true gilmour pedal though to be honest, hes always used various combinations over the years.
RE: The Official Learning Guitar Thread - Questions, answers, help - MrFeldman - 06-08-2011 10:41 AM
Thanks bro,..so the line6 pod wouldn't be a good choice. I would buy individual stomp box's if I knew what specificaly, I now have 2 dan electro,..delay & grunge but they dont seem to be what I need. Any advice ?
RE: The Official Learning Guitar Thread - Questions, answers, help - pinkfloydfan1 - 06-08-2011 02:58 PM
Dan electro are known to be pretty crab though the fact that most of there models have plastic enclosures says it all really.
The grundge also says it all in the title, more metal sounding.
For playing Davids part you need to stick to blues and pedal blending.
Basic signal path would be.
Powerboost > Overdrives / Distortions / Fuzz > Modulation pedals like flanger, univibe, phaser >> Delay
Id say for single stomp boxes to try and find a good fuzz / overdrive like the Rat or the Sovtek russian big muff.
All in personal choice you know what sound your ears want to achieve.
The more money the bertter quality in pedal the less the more tone sucking and non bypass volume drop your going to get.
RE: The Official Learning Guitar Thread - Questions, answers, help - Joe - 12-31-2011 06:00 PM
Okay, so I just bought a guitar slide. It's a glass guitar slide...and I'm trying to get David's sound in Echoes Live at Pompeii but I can't get any notes out! I have no idea how this thing works. I'm trying to imitate David but I'm not succeeding one bit
. He's getting one line of melody, and I can't slide on one string, I keep hitting the other strings...and also his sliding is so smooth and continous.
RE: The Official Learning Guitar Thread - Questions, answers, help - pinkfloydfan1 - 01-01-2012 03:59 AM
If you are talking about the violin like sound David is making at the beginning of the song on the studio version, and even louder on the older live versions, like Pompeii, that's the end of the slide. Hold the slide kind of like a pencil, with part of the ring end ring rubbing the strings. You rapidly move the end back and forth on the string, like you are scribbling. You can go up and down the string, or go in little circles like I do, but only 1/8" (3mm) or so. It sounds better using a thicker string like the G or B strings, but if you have a hard time keeping from touching the other strings, use the high E string. It's a VERY light tough, but fast, small movements.
David uses a delay around 310ms, 7-8 repeats, with the delay volume around 75-80%. You need some dirt from a fuzz or overdrive. Not sure what pickup David uses, but I use the neck position.
RE: The Official Learning Guitar Thread - Questions, answers, help - Joe - 01-02-2012 06:21 AM
I'm talking about the violin like sound he makes on A Saucerful of Secrets at the end when Richard is playing chords right before he jumps to the chords, and then singing. I suppose we're talking about the same sound, though...Anyway, I don't know which hand I'm supposed to be holding the slide in? Should I strum at all, or is it all sliding?
Edit: Okay, I think I got it...except for the continuity. I can't hold the same note for long, I have to slide away.
RE: The Official Learning Guitar Thread - Questions, answers, help - PFOnline - 02-07-2012 10:08 PM
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