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- pinkfloydfan1 - 04-28-2007 08:29 AM
Guitarists and Bassists in this thread you are free to talk about technical aspects of playing and learning floyd songs.
Hopefully other members will be able to help you with any advice and tips on improving your playing.
- brian - 05-11-2007 02:42 AM
just wondering if david gilmour uses the middle pick up on many songs, from the concerts ive seen (dvd) he only seems to use the neck and bridge pick up's on my old squire i use the middle pick up a lot it has a great tone what about yourself.
- pinkfloydfan1 - 05-11-2007 04:00 AM
Hes not a common middle pickup user but he does use it very suttely. Its used on the cleanfunky part of echoes and he uses it on comming back to life.
On his black strat he has a toggle switch that allows him to put the bridge and neck in parrarel to sound like a humbucker.
I use the 4th position which is neck and middle pickup combined i love how warm it sounds and it saves me using alot of compression
- Grguitarfreek100 - 05-14-2007 05:27 PM
ya when i play strats thats the setting i use, its very sweet but full. Im usually a humbucker guy, but i wanna buy a firebird with mini-humbuckers.
- pinkfloydfan1 - 05-18-2007 02:20 AM
Grguitarfreek100 Wrote:ya when i play strats thats the setting i use, its very sweet but full. Im usually a humbucker guy, but i wanna buy a firebird with mini-humbuckers.A firebird what are they like ive never tried one.
- Grguitarfreek100 - 05-21-2007 04:23 PM
They have a reversed body shape, and really hot pickups.
They have a weird headstock too, like a backwards strat.
- IbanezIsTheColour - 05-23-2007 07:16 PM
Quick question...on 12 strings, are the strings that are together an octave apart, or a 5th or what?
- BusStopRatBag - 05-24-2007 03:46 PM
IbanezIsTheColour Wrote:Quick question...on 12 strings, are the strings that are together an octave apart, or a 5th or what?Normally an octave
- IbanezIsTheColour - 06-13-2007 07:11 PM
Another question, and I don't know where else to ask...What exactly is the difference between a bridge and an interlude? I know a bridge is like when it's different than the rest of the song, but in something like Echoes, is that funky part a bridge or interlude?
- pinkfloydfan1 - 06-17-2007 06:40 AM
IbanezIsTheColour Wrote:Another question, and I don't know where else to ask...What exactly is the difference between a bridge and an interlude? I know a bridge is like when it's different than the rest of the song, but in something like Echoes, is that funky part a bridge or interlude?interlude... because its between two different important parts of the song, a bridge is a part which comes back...after the verses.
Bridges mostly are the same... also if you look at the lyrics.
every verse has different lyrics right...the bridge lyrics are always the same or nearly identical..
Good example take a look at the lyrics of comfortably numb
Roger sings the verses and Gilmour the bridges
that make sense?
- IbanezIsTheColour - 06-22-2007 09:30 PM
yeah, it clears it up a bit. Thanks.
- Wings on the Pig - 06-23-2007 02:24 AM
Stupid question, but when I was a whammy effect on the guitar, how do I get the smooth sound that David Gilmour gets in songs like The Blue when he uses the pedal fo the solo. Whenever I press down the pedal I can't keep my foot steady enough for it to go smoothly and instead it presses down too fast. Is there an art to being steady and getting the flowing sound.
I didn't really know how to phrase that qustion properly but I hope someone can understand what I am getting at. ???
- Comfortably Daniel - 06-24-2007 02:19 AM
I guess it's all about practise. Your foot needs to be steady and pretty precise.
- Narrow Way - 06-24-2007 04:35 AM
What device are you using? Some pedals have a selectable or adjustable sweep, making the frequency range adjustable.
- pinkfloydfan1 - 06-25-2007 03:23 AM
Narrow Way Wrote:What device are you using? Some pedals have a selectable or adjustable sweep, making the frequency range adjustable.Thats exactly what i was going to say.
Also make sure its first in your effects chain as it will sound really fat and warm.
- Narrow Way - 06-29-2007 06:20 AM
^ Right. if you place a wah pedal after a dirt/od pedal, it will be very pronounced and the peaks exaggerated. IMO, A wah pedal is first in the signal chain. That's the only way I can get the weeping sweet wah wah sound.
- pinkfloydfan1 - 06-30-2007 01:06 AM
Narrow Way Wrote:^ Right. if you place a wah pedal after a dirt/od pedal, it will be very pronounced and the peaks exaggerated. IMO, A wah pedal is first in the signal chain. That's the only way I can get the weeping sweet wah wah sound.He's talking about the digitech whammy pedal buddy but in the same case yeh it should be first in the effects chain with the od then modulstion pedals next then finish with any reverb or delay last in chain
- paparazzi! - 07-03-2007 08:18 AM
How the hell does Gilmour get so much reverb? lol. In the Division bell, ther is so much reverb hahah, what did he use?
- Grguitarfreek100 - 07-03-2007 09:33 AM
i know that live for marooned he uses a delay pedal, at a quick pace, and it gives it the reverb illusion.
- pinkfloydfan1 - 07-03-2007 10:56 AM
paparazzi! Wrote:How the hell does Gilmour get so much reverb? lol. In the Division bell, ther is so much reverb hahah, what did he use?Its his Mxr Delay on a ping pong setting with 400ms split each side.
- paparazzi! - 07-03-2007 12:32 PM
thanks floyd fan. Has anyone turn up there amp so loud in their bedroom that when you try to talk you voice feels funny? lmao. Well, I don't seem to hear as good as I useto, this is temp right? I was playing for about 18mins.
- pinkfloydfan1 - 07-03-2007 01:52 PM
paparazzi! Wrote:thanks floyd fan. Has anyone turn up there amp so loud in their bedroom that when you try to talk you voice feels funny? lmao. Well, I don't seem to hear as good as I useto, this is temp right? I was playing for about 18mins.No Problem.... And no i cant say that has happend to me.
- Grguitarfreek100 - 07-03-2007 02:04 PM
when i play with my band we all go partially deaf. Music has its side effects.
- paparazzi! - 07-04-2007 12:11 AM
whens too much too much?
- pinkfloydfan1 - 07-04-2007 02:43 AM
when u hear a loud squeel when you arent playing a note
- Narrow Way - 07-04-2007 06:25 AM
paparazzi! Wrote:whens too much too much?It's only too much when as a guitarist, you overpower the rest of the band. At which point, you suggest they get bigger equipment and amplification. Or be replaced!
As pff1 stated, squealing can be too loud. Microphonic feedback from singlecoil pick ups can be damaging. Which is the reason,along with hum, my singlecoil strat is mainly for recording.
- paparazzi! - 07-04-2007 05:03 PM
It all makes sense,but I was in my room, being a teen that watched Angus, SRV and all the other stars while growing up i guess you can say. :D
. Me beign stupid (SMACK SMACK SMACK!!!!)a few years ago stepped on my cord, crack on the SG. The output is coming out and stuff, it's repaired, but the wire that connects the jack needs to be sodderd. Has a hell of a sound. I miss it. I love them both, their likve chilrden, a strat and a SG and a half stack tube....whats better? hearing protection? NA! Edited By paparazzi! on 1183597602
- Narrow Way - 07-04-2007 06:54 PM
^ Your next "child" shall be a Les Paul. That's a family trio made in tone heaven.
- paparazzi! - 07-05-2007 04:10 AM
Narrow Way Wrote:^ Your next "child" shall be a Les Paul. That's a family trio made in tone heaven.It should be, especially since my name is Paul
- pinkfloydfan1 - 07-05-2007 06:03 AM
paparazzi! Wrote:ha haNarrow Way Wrote:^ Your next "child" shall be a Les Paul. That's a family trio made in tone heaven.It should be, especially since my name is Paul
your next child should be called les then . :D
- pinkfloydfan1 - 07-23-2007 01:24 AM
Im intrested to hear about what other people use for the effects chains
My Signal Goes
Guitar > Aby Box > Wah > Compresser > Pre Amp Sim > Overdrive/Distortions >Eq > Fx Loop Send Returns For Talkbox> Noise Suppresor > Flanger > Chorus > Univibe> Delay> Reverb > Volume Pedal
Whats Yours ?
- Narrow Way - 07-23-2007 03:35 AM
Typically as follows:
Guitar>Tu2>modded crybaby>H2Ochorus/delay>DOD analog delay>DOD digital delay>akai intelliphase>modded DOD phaser>rocktron tremolo>EH holy Grail> AMP.
Sometimes a Morley FuzzWah in front of everything, and various fuzz/od/distortion pedals for recording, to keep sane volume. But live, no dirtboxes, I just use the amp.
But alot of times at rehearsal, I use no pedals, just straight into the amp, depending on the material to be rehearsed. If I don't need 'em I don't have them in the signal chain. Live shows all the pedals are out.
- djdnl14 - 07-27-2007 12:00 AM
Just a quick question, and I thought one of you guys could help, the black guitar Gilmour uses on Money, is it a Fender and if so whats the model, because I know that it has 24 frets on it, yet all the Fender models I've seen only have 22 at the most, was it a custom?
- pinkfloydfan1 - 07-27-2007 12:50 AM
djdnl14 Wrote:Just a quick question, and I thought one of you guys could help, the black guitar Gilmour uses on Money, is it a Fender and if so whats the model, because I know that it has 24 frets on it, yet all the Fender models I've seen only have 22 at the most, was it a custom?Its A Bill Lewis Custom Very rare
more info about it here
http://www.gilmourish.com/?page_id=89
- djdnl14 - 07-27-2007 07:26 AM
pinkfloydfan1 Wrote:Cheers, thansk for the help :Ddjdnl14 Wrote:Just a quick question, and I thought one of you guys could help, the black guitar Gilmour uses on Money, is it a Fender and if so whats the model, because I know that it has 24 frets on it, yet all the Fender models I've seen only have 22 at the most, was it a custom?Its A Bill Lewis Custom Very rare
more info about it here
http://www.gilmourish.com/?page_id=89
- pinkfloydfan1 - 07-27-2007 09:38 AM
No Problem
- Grguitarfreek100 - 07-27-2007 10:01 AM
how do you guys afford all these effects. Sheesh! All i have is a boss distortion and my h2o chorus.
- pinkfloydfan1 - 07-27-2007 11:39 AM
- BusStopRatBag - 07-27-2007 07:11 PM
pinkfloydfan1 Wrote:and he can be one of the best bass players in the land and play a Carl Thompson 6 string fretless bass.paparazzi! Wrote:ha haNarrow Way Wrote:^ Your next "child" shall be a Les Paul. That's a family trio made in tone heaven.It should be, especially since my name is Paul
your next child should be called les then . :D
- The Great Pig in the Sky - 07-28-2007 02:21 PM
BusStopRatBag Wrote:and he can be one of the best bass players in the land and play a Carl Thompson 6 string fretless bass.Les Claypool rules.
- Comfortably Daniel - 08-01-2007 04:23 AM
pinkfloydfan1 Wrote:Im intrested to hear about what other people use for the effects chainsAt the time it's like this:
My Signal Goes
Whats Yours ?
Ernie Ball volume pedal > Dynacomp > CS3 >
Carl Martin Combinator 2 with:
Roger Mayer Voodoo 1 > RAT > Big Muff > TS9DX > Tube Driver > FL9 > Carl Martin Trem 'o Vibe > Carl Martin Chorus XII.
Combinator out >
Phase 90 > Holy Grail > Carl Martin Delayla > EHX Deluxe Memory Man > Boss RT20.
- Narrow Way - 08-02-2007 04:52 PM
Comfortably Daniel Wrote:Carl Martin Trem 'o VibeHow do you like this device? A brief review, perhaps?
- Comfortably Daniel - 08-03-2007 02:21 AM
Narrow Way Wrote:Well...I think it's a very vintage sounding pedal.Comfortably Daniel Wrote:Carl Martin Trem 'o VibeHow do you like this device? A brief review, perhaps?
The vibrato is quite thight. I mean...some vibrato pedals can get detuned a lot when set at a too high level.
The tremolo is very nice too. It goes from very subtle to the trem in Money at the highest speed setting.
They both have the same speed circuit and the I think the depth-control is the same too.
It's very easy to get a good sound from this pedal.
- Narrow Way - 08-03-2007 03:33 AM
^Cool, Bro. I'll start looking out for one.
- pinkfloydfan1 - 08-03-2007 04:00 AM
- Comfortably Daniel - 08-03-2007 12:32 PM
Why look for a Dunlop if he wants a vibrato and/or tremolo? ???
- Narrow Way - 08-03-2007 01:51 PM
I had a Univibe. Sounded good with my single coil Strats but I never liked the way it sounded with a Les Paul or other Humbuckers. I have a rocktron trem which is actually very good and I'm happy with it, but you know, always looking for the next tone.
- Comfortably Daniel - 08-04-2007 01:26 AM
ghehehe...It's always like that. I'm buying stuff all the time, just to see if it fits my sound.
- Narrow Way - 08-20-2007 03:04 PM
A few recent pics of stuff..
<A HREF =http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c94/666bigbang/NewValveJr-1.jpg>68 Bassman-SUNN O)))-Valve Jr</a>
<A HREF=http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c94/666bigbang/10-10equipment016.jpg>Laney 4x12</a>
<A HREF=http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c94/666bigbang/10-10equipment021.jpg> Electric 6x12
<A HREF=http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c94/666bigbang/Amps005.jpg> Valve Jr</a>
<A HREF=http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c94/666bigbang/TadsNewGuitarandStackorganfronts007.jpg> Hammond</a>
- Comfortably Daniel - 08-22-2007 12:05 PM
I remember listening to my father playing the Hammond when I was little....I miss that :(
How's the Little Epiphone by the way...I haven't tried it yet.
- Narrow Way - 08-22-2007 01:24 PM
The Valve jr was a steal at 99 dollars I thought.Nice gutsy oldschool OD sound. Then I put about another 100.00 in it, and it's an amazing lil bugger, totally versatile and great sounding. If you noticed, I put a push pull prevolume/tone/boost switch, a three way toggle for different levels of drive, and a negative feedback circuit for a very fenderish sound. Replaced some caps with Sprague orange drops, and also, not pictured it has a built in attenuator and an adjustable volume line out. I can crank the tubes to 10, but play barely above a whisper if i want to. Also use the line out and use it for a preamp od od/distortion device. VERY VERSATILE and Sounds Great.
:)
- pinkfloydfan1 - 09-08-2007 11:04 AM
Narrow Way Wrote:The Valve jr was a steal at 99 dollars I thought.Nice gutsy oldschool OD sound. Then I put about another 100.00 in it, and it's an amazing lil bugger, totally versatile and great sounding. If you noticed, I put a push pull prevolume/tone/boost switch, a three way toggle for different levels of drive, and a negative feedback circuit for a very fenderish sound. Replaced some caps with Sprague orange drops, and also, not pictured it has a built in attenuator and an adjustable volume line out. I can crank the tubes to 10, but play barely above a whisper if i want to. Also use the line out and use it for a preamp od od/distortion device. VERY VERSATILE and Sounds Great.Why did u go for a laney they sound horrible.
:)
I just hope you have ripped the original speakers out of it.
Fane Crescendos are the best way to go ive never had any probelms with mine.
My wem has goodmans but i think im going to put Weber Thames in. as thats what are in the big mans himself.
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RE: Guitarist And Bass Discussion - Technical And General Talk Here - drk229 - 11-07-2007 01:11 PM
If I want to start messing around with guitar electronics and such, what should I do?
RE: Guitarist And Bass Discussion - Technical And General Talk Here - Dyolf - 11-07-2007 04:56 PM
drk229 Wrote:If I want to start messing around with guitar electronics and such, what should I do?
Depends on what you mean by "messing around" and "electronics".
RE: Guitarist And Bass Discussion - Technical And General Talk Here - drk229 - 11-08-2007 04:45 PM
Meh, nevermind.
RE: Guitarist And Bass Discussion - Technical And General Talk Here - Pinkman07 - 01-07-2008 02:15 PM
electronics such as pedals are a fun way to mess around. I first got a distortion pedal, then a Boss Blues Driver. Both are great and fun to mess around with. So if thats what you mean then look into those pedals to improve your sound
RE: Guitarist And Bass Discussion - Technical And General Talk Here - pinkfloydfan1 - 01-07-2008 02:21 PM
drk229 Wrote:If I want to start messing around with guitar electronics and such, what should I do?
tell me what you mean exactly
pedal mods
improving your sounds
changing parts
changing speaker wire
rewiring your guitar
sheilding your guitar
repotting your pickups
if you tell me what you want i can give you good advice and tips
RE: Guitarist And Bass Discussion - Technical And General Talk Here - spinstergirl - 03-21-2008 06:27 PM
I hope one of you guitarist can give me some ideas. My 16 year old Grandson has been playing for abot 2 years and he is very good. He would like to move up to something better then what he has now. The guitar he uses is worth about $200. The family would[/u] like to chip in and get him something better. He'd like a Les Paul but I doubt we can afford it. Does anyone have suggestion as to what to look for?
RE: Guitarist And Bass Discussion - Technical And General Talk Here - TiedyeVikki - 03-22-2008 06:24 AM
spinstergirl Wrote:I hope one of you guitarist can give me some ideas. My 16 year old Grandson has been playing for abot 2 years and he is very good. He would like to move up to something better then what he has now. The guitar he uses is worth about $200. The family would[/u] like to chip in and get him something better. He'd like a Les Paul but I doubt we can afford it. Does anyone have suggestion as to what to look for?I don't play guitar, but my son does... his guitar teacher turned him onto the Canadian guitar company Godin because they sell excellent quality guitars that rate up there with Gibson or Fender, but for about half the price. My son's electric is a Godin SD and his accoustic is a Seagull (another Godin brand)... he LOVES them both... for their sound, versatility, how the neck feels in his hands, etc. If he were home right now, I'm sure he'd be happy to elaborate, but in the meantime, here's some links:
http://www.godinguitars.com/
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godin_%28Guitar_Manufacturer%29
Reviews:
http://www.ultimate-guitar.com/reviews/electric_guitars/godin/index.html
http://reviews.harmony-central.com/reviews/Guitar/brand/Godin
http://www.penmachine.com/musicpages/cheapguitar2005.html
--Vik
RE: Guitarist And Bass Discussion - Technical And General Talk Here - pinkfloydfan1 - 03-25-2008 06:55 AM
RE: Guitarist And Bass Discussion - Technical And General Talk Here - spinstergirl - 03-25-2008 02:52 PM
Grandson likes the Epiphone Les Paul Standard. He's played it and that what he wants. Hope it's worth it
RE: Guitarist And Bass Discussion - Technical And General Talk Here - Wings on the Pig - 04-13-2008 03:18 AM
I've got an Epiphone Les Paul Custom Alpine White and it's great.
One question Liam, can I put a whammy bar on it, because it is obviously miles better than my old Fender Squire but I do miss the whammy?
RE: Guitarist And Bass Discussion - Technical And General Talk Here - pinkfloydfan1 - 04-16-2008 04:28 PM
Wings on the Pig Wrote:I've got an Epiphone Les Paul Custom Alpine White and it's great.
One question Liam, can I put a whammy bar on it, because it is obviously miles better than my old Fender Squire but I do miss the whammy?
The answer is no as the bridges are all diffrent you can fit a bigsby trem on it but truthfully its just like using vibrato and not worth the hassle plus it can cut your sustain
http://images.miretail.com/products/full/gibsoncustomshop/632866245234874106_X.jpg
RE: Guitarist And Bass Discussion - Technical And General Talk Here - Lefty Bass - 05-01-2008 11:39 AM
Quote:The answer is no...
http://www.freedomguitar.com/products_bowen_handle.php?UID=2008050117452267.78.60.86
RE: Guitarist And Bass Discussion - Technical And General Talk Here - pinkfloydfan1 - 05-02-2008 10:39 AM
Lefty Bass Wrote:Quote:The answer is no...
http://www.freedomguitar.com/products_bowen_handle.php?UID=2008050117452267.78.60.86
Well ive never seen that before
RE: - BillySherwoodHQ - 10-12-2008 12:04 PM
IbanezIsTheColour Wrote:Quick question...on 12 strings, are the strings that are together an octave apart, or a 5th or what?
I have an 8 String Spector bass and leave it tuned like so...
Low E / Octave {E}
Low A / Octave {A}
Low D / 4th {A}
Low G / 4th {C}
Makes for interesting voicings. I got that tuning from Chris Squire. He uses it for "Changes" and "Hearts" from 90210. Same kind of tuning works great on 12 string guitars as well
Cheers, Billy
http://www.myspace.com/billysherwoodhq
http://www.myspace.com/circahq
RE: Guitarist And Bass Discussion - Technical And General Talk Here - pinkfloydfan1 - 10-12-2008 05:18 PM
I envy anyone that can play a 8 string bass the neck on a 6 string is fat enough..
RE: Guitarist And Bass Discussion - Technical And General Talk Here - BillySherwoodHQ - 10-15-2008 12:14 PM
pinkfloydfan1 Wrote:I envy anyone that can play a 8 string bass the neck on a 6 string is fat enough..
The Spector neck is actually surprisingly thin for housing 8 strings.
The question about signal path... lately I have been using the Kubicki Basses into a POD line 6 XT Live foot pedalboard {sounds dialed in and many of them to choose}. Into an Acoustic Head, out to 1 cab 4x12 / 1 cab 8 10's /1 cab 1x18. Thunderous low end but punchy and clear in the mids and top.
RE: - Some Other Jackass - 10-15-2008 12:24 PM
BillySherwoodHQ Wrote:I got that tuning from Chris Squire. He uses it for "Changes" and "Hearts" from 90210.
Cheers, Billy
http://www.myspace.com/billysherwoodhq
http://www.myspace.com/circahq
I know this is going to appear foolish to many and a shining example of what's wrong with "the Interweb" but right now at least nine people including Dyolf cannot miss this one.
Please forgive me. I mean no disrespect or personal insults. Truly.
What would Jennie Garth do?
RE: Guitarist And Bass Discussion - Technical And General Talk Here - pinkfloydfan1 - 10-15-2008 03:52 PM
Get Married And Have Another Kid ?
RE: - Philintheflesh - 10-15-2008 04:01 PM
Some Other Jackass Wrote:What would Jennie Garth do?Probably get involved in a love triangle with Bev Hills...lovely girl.
RE: Guitarist And Bass Discussion - Technical And General Talk Here - ajabbar01 - 11-03-2008 01:15 PM
Just get David Gilmour's new custom Black Fender Strat. That would sort many of you guys out here, I am sure. I wouldn't mind it myself but it is expensive. I would rather make my own as it can be done, buy a Fender Classic 50's Strat and then just change the pickgaurd and the pickups and save hundreds!
Ameen.
http://www.pinkfloydguitartabs.com
RE: Guitarist And Bass Discussion - Technical And General Talk Here - pinkfloydfan1 - 11-04-2008 03:26 AM
pfft screw that get on ebay and buy a japanese fender squire strat they go for about 50 to 100 quid they were built better than the american and mixcan strats and still are to this day.
RE: Guitarist And Bass Discussion - Technical And General Talk Here - Hey You Tribute - 11-14-2008 11:18 AM
I use a Music Man Sterling--bites like crazy especially with all the effects I am running. I use 2 different rigs for my Bass setup--1 is an ampeg setup without effects and the other is a early 90's Swr (this rig runs fully effected) both run at the same time.
I do agree about the jap Fenders --they play better.
RE: - JudgeWorm94 - 04-09-2009 01:12 AM
brian Wrote:just wondering if david gilmour uses the middle pick up on many songs, from the concerts ive seen (dvd) he only seems to use the neck and bridge pick up's on my old squire i use the middle pick up a lot it has a great tone what about yourself.
I don't know but i know someone who would! Go to http://WWW.gilmourish.com this website is set up by the guitarist in the norwegian pink floyd experience. It is dedicated to the gear and settings used by david on every single song and includes a buyers gear guide! also neck pickups give a thick and fat bluesy sound. think shine on and another brick
RE: Guitarist And Bass Discussion - Technical And General Talk Here - pinkfloydfan1 - 04-09-2009 03:42 PM
Bjorns site is great but its all guesses on the settings theres no exact info on what settings David actually used.
Im too tirewd to reply with a good answer someone remind me tommorow.
RE: Guitarist And Bass Discussion - Technical And General Talk Here - JudgeWorm94 - 04-13-2009 08:16 PM
Yeah, but it has a great documentation of all dave's gear and effects, and its not too difficult to guess the settings. anyway, do you visit Bjorn's site regularly or did you just look there after my post?
RE: Guitarist And Bass Discussion - Technical And General Talk Here - pinkfloydfan1 - 04-14-2009 10:12 AM
I dont need top visit Bjorns site anymore. I know all i need to know.
I used to visit back in the day regularry before the blog was made.
I tend to stick to the David Gilmour Gear Forum now if i need to find out anything.
RE: Guitarist And Bass Discussion - Technical And General Talk Here - JudgeWorm94 - 04-15-2009 05:09 PM
Thx, better check it out then. Have you seen http://www.tonefromheaven.com? its not that good, but has interviews with Guy Pratt (his bassist from 1994) and Pete Cornish (who makes daves pedal boards and could make one for you if, of course, you have the money) plus the instructions to do A DIY bridge-neck pickup combiner mod that is on the black strat
RE: Guitarist And Bass Discussion - Technical And General Talk Here - pinkfloydfan1 - 04-19-2009 09:54 AM
Johns site isnt so good. I agree for the information hes got the site has alot more potential.
Pete is a great guy i bought my P1 and G2 off him. The G2 still remains in my board to this day.
The way your post seems to imply that i dont know all this stuff lol. I know that it isnt ment to come out that way.
I know davids gear and rogers gear inside out... im a major gear head, there the basic sites.
Gilmourish and The Tone From Heaven.
For more in depth... major gear head talk.
http://www.davidgilmour.pq.pl
great little forum.
If your trying to seriously nail your tone right down i suggest you look up Richard Mahon and send him an email. Hes proberly the most informative person out there in erms of tonailty and dynamics.
RE: Guitarist And Bass Discussion - Technical And General Talk Here - JudgeWorm94 - 04-22-2009 05:11 PM
Oops, sorry. i didn't mean that, you're cool. anyway sadly for some reason my computor blocks me from the gear forum. it sucks
RE: Guitarist And Bass Discussion - Technical And General Talk Here - JudgeWorm94 - 04-22-2009 06:42 PM
How much did your Cornish pedals cost and where can you get them from?
RE: Guitarist And Bass Discussion - Technical And General Talk Here - pinkfloydfan1 - 04-23-2009 05:26 PM
I had bought my p1 from Deck on the davidgilmour gear forum for about 400 G.B.P and my G2 from Pete himself as a custom order and that was about 650 G.B.P
RE: Guitarist And Bass Discussion - Technical And General Talk Here - JudgeWorm94 - 04-24-2009 04:33 AM
YOU CAN BUY STUFF ON THAT FORUM?
RE: Guitarist And Bass Discussion - Technical And General Talk Here - pinkfloydfan1 - 04-24-2009 06:44 AM
Well yes and no theres a buyer and sellers thread
RE: Guitarist And Bass Discussion - Technical And General Talk Here - JudgeWorm94 - 06-13-2009 11:38 PM
Help me! I am in love...
With Dave's tone on The Wall Live 1980-81. I love the wetness i know he gets with the Yamaha RA200 rotating speaker. but i can't afford it or lug it around. i need an alternative to get this tone and not a can't-be-stuffed one like Riis'. And i know all about the Muff-Mistress combination and you might get a similar sound if you run a second amp on a seperate effects loop. but what roto sim and SETTINGS!!! i am only interested in straight, detailed, well-researched explanations. please help a young lovesick tonefreak!
RE: Guitarist And Bass Discussion - Technical And General Talk Here - pinkfloydfan1 - 06-14-2009 08:32 AM
Thats not the rotating speakers
Thats the Electro Harmonix Electric Mistress... thats your main bases... or you could purchase just a good Flanger that and the muff should be a good starting point.
2ndly would be a Chorus pedal. Run the chorus pedal into the effects loop of the 2nd amp only.
If you havent got 2 amps then just run it
Muff > Electric Mistress > Chorus > Delay > Reverb
But i will say DONT purchase the newer Reissue Electric Mistress there NOTHING like the originals..
RE: Guitarist And Bass Discussion - Technical And General Talk Here - JudgeWorm94 - 06-14-2009 04:26 PM
Thanks heaps! i already have an old Boss CE-2 so all i need to do is the muff and delay. you rock pff1!
RE: Guitarist And Bass Discussion - Technical And General Talk Here - Floydfan91 - 06-24-2009 03:45 PM
Where is the best place to get a 11 hole one ply black pickguard, because all I can find are 3 ply.
RE: Guitarist And Bass Discussion - Technical And General Talk Here - emonerd826 - 06-25-2009 12:15 AM
its so awesome to improvise your own solo to comfortably numb. it feels gooooooooooood.
RE: Guitarist And Bass Discussion - Technical And General Talk Here - JudgeWorm94 - 06-28-2009 10:15 PM
I cannot dish out 500 bucks for a mistress. Release a nano version already EH! thank god my dad brought a CE2 when he was 'bought my age. been having heaps of fun with it lately. its not gilmours EXACT tone, but who cares, i don't want to be him i just want his sound. emonerd826 has a point. i can't remeber the original solo so i just improvise around the scale
RE: Guitarist And Bass Discussion - Technical And General Talk Here - pinkfloydfan1 - 07-01-2009 03:54 AM
u can pick up an evh flanger dirt cheap there not to shabby but there no mistress.
RE: Guitarist And Bass Discussion - Technical And General Talk Here - JudgeWorm94 - 07-05-2009 10:57 PM
Thanks, u r the best. theres one in my store. put up that site already! (Don't worry, no preasure or demand just friendly LOL)
RE: Guitarist And Bass Discussion - Technical And General Talk Here - JudgeWorm94 - 07-05-2009 11:01 PM
Im trying to give you a positive rep point but it blocks me! grrrrrrrrrrrrrrr!
RE: Guitarist And Bass Discussion - Technical And General Talk Here - pinkfloydfan1 - 07-06-2009 02:42 AM
hmm no idea then
the site will be up eventually im still in the process of putting the articles together ive got loadzz far too much.
RE: Guitarist And Bass Discussion - Technical And General Talk Here - JudgeWorm94 - 07-09-2009 03:33 PM
The MXR flanger is slightly cheaper but still $400. I live in aus and the US/AUS exchange rate is gay. Thank God for morrison audio. those cost about $50us. maybe i can get a bargain or try another store. they are a bit ripoff.
RE: Guitarist And Bass Discussion - Technical And General Talk Here - pinkfloydfan1 - 07-09-2009 05:24 PM
The end of the day... you pay for what you get.
RE: Guitarist And Bass Discussion - Technical And General Talk Here - JudgeWorm94 - 07-10-2009 04:33 AM
Agreed!
RE: Guitarist And Bass Discussion - Technical And General Talk Here - Floydfan91 - 07-13-2009 05:53 AM
What would be a good Coloursound power boost clone?
RE: Guitarist And Bass Discussion - Technical And General Talk Here - pinkfloydfan1 - 07-13-2009 09:12 AM
RE: Guitarist And Bass Discussion - Technical And General Talk Here - Floydfan91 - 07-13-2009 11:12 AM
Thanks man
RE: Guitarist And Bass Discussion - Technical And General Talk Here - Tbach - 07-13-2009 01:53 PM
i looking for a new guitar im still playing on a 52 dan electro what would you guys recomend
RE: Guitarist And Bass Discussion - Technical And General Talk Here - Floydfan91 - 07-13-2009 02:41 PM
Tbach Wrote:i looking for a new guitar im still playing on a 52 dan electro what would you guys recomend
Well, what all do you play, I say get a Fender Standard Strat, or a Squier Classic Vibe
RE: Guitarist And Bass Discussion - Technical And General Talk Here - Floydfan91 - 07-16-2009 06:54 AM
I'm having a problem when I do bends. When I bend for say the b string, and I go to release it I get a sound out of my g string, is this normal??
RE: Guitarist And Bass Discussion - Technical And General Talk Here - Tbach - 07-31-2009 03:31 PM
Floydfan91 Wrote:I'm having a problem when I do bends. When I bend for say the b string, and I go to release it I get a sound out of my g string, is this normal??
happens to me alot i just keep practicing bends on each fret of the string until i can bend each fret without making excess noise
RE: Guitarist And Bass Discussion - Technical And General Talk Here - emonerd826 - 07-31-2009 09:44 PM
I can play the SOYCD intro on both keyboards and guitar
Man, am I awesome.
RE: Guitarist And Bass Discussion - Technical And General Talk Here - Echoes2331 - 08-05-2009 05:13 AM
Hello
Can you tell me please how to play this part: http://www.2shared.com/file/7010798/9790de7/tnsntj.html
It is from Shine on you crazy diamond part VII. What I want to know is the effect/setting and is it a guitar or a bass. You can tab it if you like. Than would be super cool.
More: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gb_uTQanUUQ
Thank you!
RE: Guitarist And Bass Discussion - Technical And General Talk Here - pinkfloydfan1 - 08-05-2009 02:24 PM
I Dont understand which part you actually mean...
RE: Guitarist And Bass Discussion - Technical And General Talk Here - Echoes2331 - 08-05-2009 02:35 PM
Open the tnsntj.mp3 file I uploaded. I think it is played on a bass with a fuzz maybe. Its low and fuzzy. I like this sound so much.
RE: Guitarist And Bass Discussion - Technical And General Talk Here - pinkfloydfan1 - 08-06-2009 05:42 AM
the file was corrupt
RE: Guitarist And Bass Discussion - Technical And General Talk Here - Echoes2331 - 08-07-2009 01:23 AM
pinkfloydfan1 Wrote:the file was corrupt
oh, sorry. If you watch this video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gb_uTQanUUQ
it begins at 0:55, then again at 0:57 ans so on, repeating. its about 1 sec long.
RE: Guitarist And Bass Discussion - Technical And General Talk Here - pinkfloydfan1 - 09-21-2009 02:09 PM
Oh that.
Thats just an overdub of Roger with the HH amp head.
On the studio recording hes just playing the riff in the key of the song which is g minor.
If you want a tab i could do it but you could really work it out by ear.
RE: Guitarist And Bass Discussion - Technical And General Talk Here - wot's uh the deal? - 01-05-2010 03:55 PM
more tips on getting DG's sounds without a huge rack of gear........................
Link up a ......................
a boss DD3 delay , a rotovibe pedal and some tube driven overdrive. You need a slide to use like a violin bow to get those eerie orchestral sounds you hear on Echoes, Atom Heart Mother and Ummagumma.PM me for dd3 setting for this trick from DG's bag of tricks.
You need a wah wah and to reverse the amp and instrument leads to make those sounds like electronic seagulls on live 'embryo' and 'echoes', then run it through a dd3 delay box.
I sometimes use it on my cd.s since no synth can make this sound.
RE: Guitarist And Bass Discussion - Technical And General Talk Here - wot's uh the deal? - 01-25-2010 04:51 PM
try an explorer. They are chunky solid humbucking axes. I played one to death in the 90's It could n't be repaired!!!
RE: Guitarist And Bass Discussion - Technical And General Talk Here - Echoes2331 - 02-16-2010 08:27 AM
(09-21-2009 02:09 PM)pinkfloydfan1 Wrote: Oh that.
Thats just an overdub of Roger with the HH amp head.
On the studio recording hes just playing the riff in the key of the song which is g minor.
If you want a tab i could do it but you could really work it out by ear.
G|---5p0-3p0------|
D|-0---------3-5--|
A|----------------|
E|----------------|
Please tell me... Does it goes like this?
I have never done this before...
Thanks!
RE: Guitarist And Bass Discussion - Technical And General Talk Here - wot's uh the deal? - 02-22-2010 05:48 PM
on the 'dogs' solos DG plays a telecaster run through a leslie.
on 'run like hell' DG plays a telecaster or his vintage broadcaster with a delay or 2.
on 'ABITW' part 2 DG plays a gold top les paul with p 90 pick ups .
on 'sorrow' DG plays a fender strat with emg active pick ups. he later stopped using these b/c they are 'too fat', they don't sound like a 50's strat. with the clear high end on pole piece pickups.
on 'Money' he plays a full 2 octave guitar with humbuckers made by evans. It can be seen in use on the studio segments on PF in Pompeii.
On 'marooned' he uses a digitech whammy pedal to get those huge swoops & intervals.
http://www.mp3.com.au/taariqhassan
RE: Guitarist And Bass Discussion - Technical And General Talk Here - Rykeys - 12-27-2011 01:18 PM
Waters' bass lines on "Dark Side...." and post, are epic. I'm not a bass player I find myself humming Waters' bass on songs like "Any Colour You Like" or "Brain Damage". Since Nick is my favourite drummer the two go hand in hand.