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- AndersonCouncill - 08-15-2005 10:18 PM
How do you rate his solo albums? Not as interesting as the one in the Albums section because there is less room for debate but who cares:
3.Radio KAOS--Ok, you can diss AMLOR for reaking of 80s cheesiness but its not like this is any better. Its got everything... Good songs, good writing, good production, classic era Floyd sonic overlayering, except one thing. Its just not Roger. Its an 80s processed rock interpretation of himself.
2.Amused To Death--Good. Fantastic. Wonderful, but at times it lags a bit. The writing is biting but by this time age was showing its ugly head and Waters was getting a bit repetitive.
1.Pros And Cons Of Hitchhiking--Roger at his finest. His vocals are top notch, as are his lyrics. This album is a step up from The Final Cut in that its not as tense. My guess as to why this is would be that he was no longer under the pressure of making a Pink Floyd album so he just said **** it, I'm getting an all-female backing R&B band and Eric Clapton and I'm just going to go nuts. The flow is perfect, and, perhaps more than even Dark Side Of The Moon, when listened to in its entirety it feels as though it was one big song.
Maybe this should be pinned but like I said, not as much room for discussion so maybe not.
- pointmeatthesky - 08-15-2005 10:29 PM
this aint easy
3.Pros & Cons
Now i know i have a new found love for this album, but yet it still can't quite make it any higher. Anyways, it kicks ass and you should give it a chance if you haven't already
2.Radio KAOS
Loved it since i got it. The eightiesness is what makes it so fun! Also is good, and also worth a chance.
1.Amused to Death
Flat out unbeatable, lyrically and musically great! Kicks the most ass and is worthy of your love.
Well thats it, hope this enlightened yourlife!
- AndersonCouncill - 08-15-2005 11:05 PM
Yeah, its fun. But so are Poison. And if your a big Poison fan than get off the site.
Quote:The eightiesness is what makes it so fun!
- pointmeatthesky - 08-15-2005 11:07 PM
but its fun eighties, like lets dance by bowie, not trashy eighties like poison.
- AndersonCouncill - 08-15-2005 11:10 PM
Yeah. But Roger's not fun. He's Roger freakin' Waters! He's the antithesis of fun rock and roll!!
- pointmeatthesky - 08-15-2005 11:11 PM
You make a good point there, so i guess for a roger waters album, it's lame, but as just an album, its good.
- AndersonCouncill - 08-15-2005 11:13 PM
pointmeatthesky Wrote:You make a good point there, so i guess for a roger waters album, it's lame, but as just an album, its good.So how come I get torn apart when I say that about AMLOR?
- pointmeatthesky - 08-15-2005 11:14 PM
well who tears you apart? If its people who don't like AMLOR, just remember there wrong. AMLOR is cool.
- AndersonCouncill - 08-15-2005 11:18 PM
In my opinion its the 2nd best album with the words Pink and Floyd on it.
But thats another forum...
- AndersonCouncill - 08-15-2005 11:26 PM
When I first got KAOS I was so excited! I loved Amused To Death and Pros And Cons Of Hitchiking and then when I popped it in my CDplayer and Radio Waves started I felt like my hero had finally bent over for the establishment, which isn't true when you think about it. I think that happened on Wish You Were Here (not saying its bad, just overly commercial friendly)
- Skol - 08-16-2005 05:00 AM
3 - Radio KAOS, the subject matter is too far out and ridiculous and it's far too 80's.
Fave song - The Tide is Turning
2 - Pros and Cons of Hitch Hiking, very good. I love the concept but it does lack somewhat in the musical aspect.
Fave Song - The Pros and Cons of Hitch Hiking
1 - Amused to Death, BRILLIANT! One of the most underrated albums ever produced. Roger at his finest. It's musically very sound and the lyrics are just typical Roger.
Fave Song - Tough choice but i'll say The Bravery of Being Out Of Range
- Scream Thy Last Scream - 08-16-2005 09:37 AM
The Pros and Cons of Hitch Hiking..... When dissected carefully, The Pros and Cons of Hitch Hiking becomes a fascinating conceptual voyage into the workings of the human psyche. As an abstract peering into the intricate functions of the subconscious, Waters' first solo album involves numerous dream sequences that both figuratively and symbolically unravel his struggle with marriage, fidelity, commitment, and age at the height of a midlife crisis. While the songs (titled by the times in which Waters experiences each dream) seem to lack in musical fluidity at certain points, they make up for it with ingenious symbolism and his brilliant use of stream of consciousness within a subconscious realm. Outside from the deep but sometimes patchy narrative framework, the music slightly lacks in rhythm or hooks, except for the title track that includes some attractive guitar playing via Eric Clapton. David Sanborn's saxophone is another attribute, adding some life to "Go Fishing" and "The Pros and Cons of Hitch Hiking." But it's truly the imagery and the visual design of the album that is front and center, since the importance lies in what Waters is trying to get across to the audience, decorated somewhat casually by his singing and the music. With Pink Floyd, the marriage of Waters' concepts and ideas with the talented musicianship of the rest of the band presented a complete masterpiece in both thought and music, while his solo efforts lean more toward the conceptual aspects of his work. With this in mind, The Pros and Cons of Hitch Hiking continues to showcase Waters' unprecedented knack of addressing his darkest thoughts and conceptions in a most extraordinary fashion.
Fav Song Go Fishing
Radio K.A.O.S......... Roger Waters' second solo album is yet another conceptual narrative, one that tells the tale of a wheelchair-bound boy who tries to halt the threat of nuclear war through his use of the HAM radio. The story line isn't held together as tightly as his first album, and the whole fable seems a little too far fetched, even when taken lightly. Unlike The Pros and Cons album, the music here overrides the narrative, but not by much, highlighted by the upbeat pop single "Radio Waves." The last tune, entitled "The Tide Is Turning," is the only other focal point of the album, an honest-sounding ballad that relinquishes a glimmer of hope in an otherwise unpromising world. Waters' anti-war theme is stretched full across the album, but the music itself struggles to capture any attention, bogged down by half-whispers and flat-lined melodies that are only slightly resuscitated from time to time with some trumpet and saxophone. The novelty of Los Angeles disc jockey Jim Ladd wears off quickly, as he was obviously used to add some lightheartedness to the album's pessimistic undertones. Waters' use of imagery and thematic depth are absent from Radio K.A.O.S., leaving his superficial spiel with barely any sustenance, which in turn hinders the moral of the album so that it fails to reach its fruition. While both The Pros and Cons of Hitch Hiking and Amused to Death convey his talented use of concept, imagination, and lyrical mastery, this album seems to be nothing more than a fictional tale with a blatantly apparent message.
Fav Song-----Radio Waves
Amused To Death.......... Amused to Death is a solid album both conceptually and musically, showcasing Waters as an artist who, like his work with Pink Floyd, conveys his thoughts and ideals with pinpoint accuracy so that they are engraved within his audience's mind. With this album, Waters touches heavily on the dangers of capitalism, the insensitivity of the human race, the ridiculousness of war, and the onslaught of mindless entertainment that encroaches on mankind on a day-to-day basis. Fitting all these aspects into 14 songs is a task in itself, but accomplishing this task alongside music that is forceful and appealing is extremely difficult, and still Waters succeeds in doing this throughout the duration of the album. "The Ballad of Bill Hubbard" is a moving spoken intro from Alf Razzell, a former member of Britain's Royal Fusiliers. A stab at the false sense of security that lies within religion is dealt with on the powerful "What God Wants, Pt. 1," and the cowardice of the world's leaders is addressed in "The Bravery of Being Out of Range," one of the albums most blatant tracks. Guest guitarist Jeff Beck rises to the occasion on a number of songs here, and both Rita Coolidge and Don Henley fill in behind and beside Waters on a couple of the longer tunes. Ending with the title track, a song that sums up the whole of the album with it's subtle yet hard-hitting demeanor, Waters proves that he can still reveal his conceptual ideas with pristine clarity, only on Amused to Death, the music is as equally entertaining and effective.
Fav Song(s)----Every One Of Them
hehehehehehe
- Love In Spite Of Traffic - 08-16-2005 10:22 AM
Pros And Cons - I didn't like it at first but it grew on me a lot. Eric's playing is fantastic and Roger's vocals a really cool to. It's classic Rog.
Radio K.A.O.S. - I loved this record from the first time I heard it. Great music, great vocals, great lyrics, and great production. Just overall good tunes and I love the positive vibe of the whole album.
Amused To Death - Greatest piece of art ever made. To call it a "record" wouldn't come close to doing it justice. Roger proved to me he really is a genius with ATD. Start to finish it is perfection.
- pointmeatthesky - 08-16-2005 08:10 PM
AndersonCouncill Wrote:When I first got KAOS I was so excited! I loved Amused To Death and Pros And Cons Of Hitchiking and then when I popped it in my CDplayer and Radio Waves started I felt like my hero had finally bent over for the establishment, which isn't true when you think about it. I think that happened on Wish You Were Here (not saying its bad, just overly commercial friendly)you know andersoncouncil, you should be nicer to KAOS fans, cause you know how it feels when your torn apart for liking AMLOR.
- AndersonCouncill - 08-16-2005 09:11 PM
Oh, I know. Its just that I was so pissed when I heard Radio KAOS (and you have to understand also that before hearing it I heard Amused To Death and Pros And Cons, so I was expecting something THAT good)!
- AndersonCouncill - 08-16-2005 09:14 PM
Scream Thy Last Scream Wrote:The Pros and Cons of Hitch Hiking..... When dissected carefully, The Pros and Cons of Hitch Hiking becomes a fascinating conceptual voyage into the workings of the human psyche. As an abstract peering into the intricate functions of the subconscious, Waters' first solo album involves numerous dream sequences that both figuratively and symbolically unravel his struggle with marriage, fidelity, commitment, and age at the height of a midlife crisis. While the songs (titled by the times in which Waters experiences each dream) seem to lack in musical fluidity at certain points, they make up for it with ingenious symbolism and his brilliant use of stream of consciousness within a subconscious realm. Outside from the deep but sometimes patchy narrative framework, the music slightly lacks in rhythm or hooks, except for the title track that includes some attractive guitar playing via Eric Clapton. David Sanborn's saxophone is another attribute, adding some life to "Go Fishing" and "The Pros and Cons of Hitch Hiking." But it's truly the imagery and the visual design of the album that is front and center, since the importance lies in what Waters is trying to get across to the audience, decorated somewhat casually by his singing and the music. With Pink Floyd, the marriage of Waters' concepts and ideas with the talented musicianship of the rest of the band presented a complete masterpiece in both thought and music, while his solo efforts lean more toward the conceptual aspects of his work. With this in mind, The Pros and Cons of Hitch Hiking continues to showcase Waters' unprecedented knack of addressing his darkest thoughts and conceptions in a most extraordinary fashion.I love you (in a non-homoerotic sense). :D
Fav Song Go Fishing
Radio K.A.O.S......... Roger Waters' second solo album is yet another conceptual narrative, one that tells the tale of a wheelchair-bound boy who tries to halt the threat of nuclear war through his use of the HAM radio. The story line isn't held together as tightly as his first album, and the whole fable seems a little too far fetched, even when taken lightly. Unlike The Pros and Cons album, the music here overrides the narrative, but not by much, highlighted by the upbeat pop single "Radio Waves." The last tune, entitled "The Tide Is Turning," is the only other focal point of the album, an honest-sounding ballad that relinquishes a glimmer of hope in an otherwise unpromising world. Waters' anti-war theme is stretched full across the album, but the music itself struggles to capture any attention, bogged down by half-whispers and flat-lined melodies that are only slightly resuscitated from time to time with some trumpet and saxophone. The novelty of Los Angeles disc jockey Jim Ladd wears off quickly, as he was obviously used to add some lightheartedness to the album's pessimistic undertones. Waters' use of imagery and thematic depth are absent from Radio K.A.O.S., leaving his superficial spiel with barely any sustenance, which in turn hinders the moral of the album so that it fails to reach its fruition. While both The Pros and Cons of Hitch Hiking and Amused to Death convey his talented use of concept, imagination, and lyrical mastery, this album seems to be nothing more than a fictional tale with a blatantly apparent message.
Fav Song-----Radio Waves
Amused To Death.......... Amused to Death is a solid album both conceptually and musically, showcasing Waters as an artist who, like his work with Pink Floyd, conveys his thoughts and ideals with pinpoint accuracy so that they are engraved within his audience's mind. With this album, Waters touches heavily on the dangers of capitalism, the insensitivity of the human race, the ridiculousness of war, and the onslaught of mindless entertainment that encroaches on mankind on a day-to-day basis. Fitting all these aspects into 14 songs is a task in itself, but accomplishing this task alongside music that is forceful and appealing is extremely difficult, and still Waters succeeds in doing this throughout the duration of the album. "The Ballad of Bill Hubbard" is a moving spoken intro from Alf Razzell, a former member of Britain's Royal Fusiliers. A stab at the false sense of security that lies within religion is dealt with on the powerful "What God Wants, Pt. 1," and the cowardice of the world's leaders is addressed in "The Bravery of Being Out of Range," one of the albums most blatant tracks. Guest guitarist Jeff Beck rises to the occasion on a number of songs here, and both Rita Coolidge and Don Henley fill in behind and beside Waters on a couple of the longer tunes. Ending with the title track, a song that sums up the whole of the album with it's subtle yet hard-hitting demeanor, Waters proves that he can still reveal his conceptual ideas with pristine clarity, only on Amused to Death, the music is as equally entertaining and effective.
Fav Song(s)----Every One Of Them
hehehehehehe
That was awesome, Scream.
- Alternate Gilmour - 08-17-2005 05:46 AM
Scream Thy Last Scream Wrote:The Pros and Cons of Hitch Hiking..... When dissected carefully, The Pros and Cons of Hitch Hiking becomes a fascinating conceptual voyage into the workings of the human psyche. As an abstract peering into the intricate functions of the subconscious, Waters' first solo album involves numerous dream sequences that both figuratively and symbolically unravel his struggle with marriage, fidelity, commitment, and age at the height of a midlife crisis. While the songs (titled by the times in which Waters experiences each dream) seem to lack in musical fluidity at certain points, they make up for it with ingenious symbolism and his brilliant use of stream of consciousness within a subconscious realm. Outside from the deep but sometimes patchy narrative framework, the music slightly lacks in rhythm or hooks, except for the title track that includes some attractive guitar playing via Eric Clapton. David Sanborn's saxophone is another attribute, adding some life to "Go Fishing" and "The Pros and Cons of Hitch Hiking." But it's truly the imagery and the visual design of the album that is front and center, since the importance lies in what Waters is trying to get across to the audience, decorated somewhat casually by his singing and the music. With Pink Floyd, the marriage of Waters' concepts and ideas with the talented musicianship of the rest of the band presented a complete masterpiece in both thought and music, while his solo efforts lean more toward the conceptual aspects of his work. With this in mind, The Pros and Cons of Hitch Hiking continues to showcase Waters' unprecedented knack of addressing his darkest thoughts and conceptions in a most extraordinary fashion.Can you spell plagiarism?
Fav Song Go Fishing
Radio K.A.O.S......... Roger Waters' second solo album is yet another conceptual narrative, one that tells the tale of a wheelchair-bound boy who tries to halt the threat of nuclear war through his use of the HAM radio. The story line isn't held together as tightly as his first album, and the whole fable seems a little too far fetched, even when taken lightly. Unlike The Pros and Cons album, the music here overrides the narrative, but not by much, highlighted by the upbeat pop single "Radio Waves." The last tune, entitled "The Tide Is Turning," is the only other focal point of the album, an honest-sounding ballad that relinquishes a glimmer of hope in an otherwise unpromising world. Waters' anti-war theme is stretched full across the album, but the music itself struggles to capture any attention, bogged down by half-whispers and flat-lined melodies that are only slightly resuscitated from time to time with some trumpet and saxophone. The novelty of Los Angeles disc jockey Jim Ladd wears off quickly, as he was obviously used to add some lightheartedness to the album's pessimistic undertones. Waters' use of imagery and thematic depth are absent from Radio K.A.O.S., leaving his superficial spiel with barely any sustenance, which in turn hinders the moral of the album so that it fails to reach its fruition. While both The Pros and Cons of Hitch Hiking and Amused to Death convey his talented use of concept, imagination, and lyrical mastery, this album seems to be nothing more than a fictional tale with a blatantly apparent message.
Fav Song-----Radio Waves
Amused To Death.......... Amused to Death is a solid album both conceptually and musically, showcasing Waters as an artist who, like his work with Pink Floyd, conveys his thoughts and ideals with pinpoint accuracy so that they are engraved within his audience's mind. With this album, Waters touches heavily on the dangers of capitalism, the insensitivity of the human race, the ridiculousness of war, and the onslaught of mindless entertainment that encroaches on mankind on a day-to-day basis. Fitting all these aspects into 14 songs is a task in itself, but accomplishing this task alongside music that is forceful and appealing is extremely difficult, and still Waters succeeds in doing this throughout the duration of the album. "The Ballad of Bill Hubbard" is a moving spoken intro from Alf Razzell, a former member of Britain's Royal Fusiliers. A stab at the false sense of security that lies within religion is dealt with on the powerful "What God Wants, Pt. 1," and the cowardice of the world's leaders is addressed in "The Bravery of Being Out of Range," one of the albums most blatant tracks. Guest guitarist Jeff Beck rises to the occasion on a number of songs here, and both Rita Coolidge and Don Henley fill in behind and beside Waters on a couple of the longer tunes. Ending with the title track, a song that sums up the whole of the album with it's subtle yet hard-hitting demeanor, Waters proves that he can still reveal his conceptual ideas with pristine clarity, only on Amused to Death, the music is as equally entertaining and effective.
Fav Song(s)----Every One Of Them
hehehehehehe
There are 2 dead giveaways here.
1) I know you have a rudimentary vocabulary and these reviews are too well written for you.
2) I know you go ballistic even over the smallest criticism of Waters and had you actually read these reviews, you would have detected some. The big-words may have confused you though.
Of course, there are also these links to the guy that really did the work. Michael DeGagne (a professional music reviewer)
Pros and Cons:
http://www.livedaily.com/artists....02.html
Radio Kaos:
http://www.livedaily.com/artists....03.html
Amused To Death:
http://www.livedaily.com/artists....30.html
- Scream Thy Last Scream - 08-17-2005 09:34 AM
Jumpy Wrote:Scream was merely compiling reviews of Roger's works in one handy post. I find this to be another tiresome, yet predictable attack by A-G on Scream.jumpy, these reviews were taking from the net, hence the he he he at the end of the post. at the same time, old grumpy had the idea to go trawl the net like i did (as i knew he would). this action goes to prove your point. i have a stalker. does it bother me....no. it is clear by his actions here that i am not the one with the problem. i could have written a lenghty review of each album, but, as you all know, it would have been totally biased towards roger.
I find that A-G persistent attacks of others here reveal a lack of self-esteem. I really wish something could be done, but every board has its troll.
i would suggest for this stalker to go out and find himself a life, instead of chasing an unknown person across a forum board, trying to bring that person down.
now, agnostic gollywog. are you satisfied in adding another pathetic and galling chapter at this juncture in your miserable posting on this board?
oh.....and by the way....did it take you long???? im chuffed that someone cares about me so much :D
and another btw.....i can take slack from anyone, but a smallminded little person doesnt matter one iota to me. as i can see, you had a rich mummy and daddy who spoilt you. i pity them. and actually, i got all the reviews from one site....amg. so you were wrong.
:D :laugh:
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- Alternate Gilmour - 08-17-2005 11:45 AM
My,my.....more musings from Beavis and his appendage Butt-head.
- Scream Thy Last Scream - 08-17-2005 12:20 PM
Alternate Gilmour Wrote:My,my.....more musings from Beavis and his appendage Butt-head.ehhh..he.he...he he he he...eh. well... hehe.. yeah....he he... hey beavis...he he heh hehehehe..,... get a load of lonely ......he he lol .he he...
well, duh....maaaan....he he.... look at his name... he he he he hehehehe......
cornholiooooooooo
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- AndersonCouncill - 08-17-2005 01:52 PM
Alternate Gilmour Wrote:My,my.....more musings from Beavis and his appendage Butt-head.What a great immature response. I can't believe I stuck up for you when Scream started that petition to ban you.
- A New Machine - 08-17-2005 04:29 PM
Anywho...
3. The Pros and Cons of Hitchiking: By far the worst of the three. The cheesy backups and horrid musical progression cancel out the fascinating lyrics and stellar guitar work by Clapton, making this an average album, while the other two are great.
Best song: Apparently They Were Travelling Abroad
Worst song: The Pros and Cons of Hitchiking
2. Radio KAOS: Call it cheesy. I don't care. This album just puts me in a good mood. Songs like Radio Waves and Sunset Strip make this an album you can just sit back and enjoy, while songs like Four Minutes and Who Needs Information provide the emotional resonance. I also love the prospect of a science fiction rock opera.
Best song: Four Minutes
Worst song: Home
1. Amused to Death: One of the most stirring albums ever created, Floyd or not. I have never had to stop and think so much as when I listened to this album. True genious.
Best song: Amused To Death
Worst song: The Ballad of Bill Hubbard
- pointmeatthesky - 08-17-2005 04:31 PM
A New Machine Wrote:2. Radio KAOS: Call it cheesy. I don't care. This album just puts me in a good mood. Songs like Radio Waves and Sunset Strip make this an album you can just sit back and enjoy, while songs like Four Minutes and Who Needs Information provide the emotional resonance. I also love the prospect of a science fiction rock opera.EXACTLY, thats exactly how i feel, try explaining that ta anderson council.
Best song: Four Minutes
Worst song: Home
- A New Machine - 08-17-2005 04:40 PM
Mr. Councill's opinion is just as valued as ours. I do feel that he is missing the "Radio Charm", if you will, in some way, shape, or form, but there are probably plenty of people who feel the same way about me not liking Pros and Cons. As everyone has said a thousand times around here. To each his own. I guess that's pretty easy to forget sometimes, though.
- AndersonCouncill - 08-17-2005 06:27 PM
I feel there is something your missing on Pros And Cons. Pros And Cons Of Hitchhiking and Sexual Revolution are two of the best blues rockers of all time, lightyears ahead of anything on Radio KAOS, in my opinion. KAOS isn't bad, but its bad for Waters. Go Fishing from Pros And Cons has one of the greatest guitar solos Clapton ever did and thats saying somethin!
- Alternate Gilmour - 08-17-2005 06:31 PM
AndersonCouncill Wrote:I don't know what you are upset about....unless you were happier in the dark.Alternate Gilmour Wrote:My,my.....more musings from Beavis and his appendage Butt-head.What a great immature response. I can't believe I stuck up for you when Scream started that petition to ban you.
Those 2 dimwits have been stiring things up on other posts. I'm just handing it back to 'em. Besides, he WAS ripping someone else's work. They're just mad 'cos I pointed it out.
- pointmeatthesky - 08-17-2005 06:34 PM
Alternate Gilmour Wrote:you should spend time doing more constructive things instead of trying to tear down fans of roger watersAndersonCouncill Wrote:I don't know what you are upset about....unless you were happier in the dark.Alternate Gilmour Wrote:My,my.....more musings from Beavis and his appendage Butt-head.What a great immature response. I can't believe I stuck up for you when Scream started that petition to ban you.
Those 2 dimwits have been stiring things up on other posts. I'm just handing it back to 'em. Besides, he WAS ripping someone else's work. They're just mad 'cos I pointed it out.
- Sydney - 08-17-2005 06:38 PM
You took the words right out of my mouth pointmeatthesky! :laugh:
- AndersonCouncill - 08-17-2005 06:54 PM
He's just burned because more and more people are slowly beginning to realize why Scream Thy Last Scream started that petition.
- Sydney - 08-17-2005 06:55 PM
I suppose that is right. You shouldn't go on the Roger board and mess with us Roger fans. That's not nice, and wouldn't this world be so much better if we were nicer.
- AndersonCouncill - 08-17-2005 06:58 PM
Alternate Gilmour Wrote:I was never "in the dark". I had read those all at allmusic.com before I ever joined here. I was pleased to see someone else trusts in the same system for reviews I do.AndersonCouncill Wrote:I don't know what you are upset about....unless you were happier in the dark.Alternate Gilmour Wrote:My,my.....more musings from Beavis and his appendage Butt-head.What a great immature response. I can't believe I stuck up for you when Scream started that petition to ban you.
- A New Machine - 08-18-2005 07:36 AM
AndersonCouncill Wrote:I feel there is something your missing on Pros And Cons. Pros And Cons Of Hitchhiking and Sexual Revolution are two of the best blues rockers of all time, lightyears ahead of anything on Radio KAOS, in my opinion. KAOS isn't bad, but its bad for Waters. Go Fishing from Pros And Cons has one of the greatest guitar solos Clapton ever did and thats saying somethin!Nah. I'm not missing anything. Pros and Cons of Hitchiking is just not a good song. The backing vocals always make me flinch. But Sexual Revolution is definately one of the high points, especially Clapton's solo. This is mostly because Sexual Revolution is one of the very few songs that kind of strays away from the uniform guitar riff used throughout the album. It's a change of pace from an exhausted melody.
- BusStopRatBag - 08-18-2005 07:39 AM
Scale of 1-5. 5 being the best
Pros and cons- 3 It needs more rockin' songs like Pros and Cons of hitch hiking part 10.
Radio K.A.O.S.- 4 Great album...the only thing everything is wayyyyyy to quiet.
Amused to Death- 5 My favourite album of all time. Nothing bad to say everything is flawless
- Scream Thy Last Scream - 08-18-2005 08:20 AM
Alternate Gilmour Wrote:ermmmm. ripping OFF someone elses work......isnt that what the current trio of pink floyd are doing to roger waters?AndersonCouncill Wrote:I don't know what you are upset about....unless you were happier in the dark.Alternate Gilmour Wrote:My,my.....more musings from Beavis and his appendage Butt-head.What a great immature response. I can't believe I stuck up for you when Scream started that petition to ban you.
Those 2 dimwits have been stiring things up on other posts. I'm just handing it back to 'em. Besides, he WAS ripping someone else's work. They're just mad 'cos I pointed it out.
and, oohhhh, i really am mad lol :Oo: , but the medication works :love:
your a really nice chap altogether, agnostic, but i dont think your a true fan. i mean, what do you achieve on this board? politics is no use. you slag roger over that. so your a gilmour fan. there arae a lot here. but they are not like you. please go away. your starting to drive everybody else mad
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- Scream Thy Last Scream - 08-18-2005 08:26 AM
AndersonCouncill Wrote:and im pleased that you read them too, mate. im ignoring him in future. he doesnt deserve for us to answer him. hes trouble, and he loves winding us up.Alternate Gilmour Wrote:I was never "in the dark". I had read those all at allmusic.com before I ever joined here. I was pleased to see someone else trusts in the same system for reviews I do.AndersonCouncill Wrote:I don't know what you are upset about....unless you were happier in the dark.Alternate Gilmour Wrote:My,my.....more musings from Beavis and his appendage Butt-head.What a great immature response. I can't believe I stuck up for you when Scream started that petition to ban you.
- Alternate Gilmour - 08-18-2005 11:08 AM
Sydney Wrote:I suppose that is right. You shouldn't go on the Roger board and mess with us Roger fans. That's not nice, and wouldn't this world be so much better if we were nicer.Well, there you have it. You few have your feathers ruffled over a thread about Roger and now pose "consensus gentium". Well, that is always a fallacy.
And by the way.....I didn't post my thread there, a mod moved it. (I had it in a more respectable place on this site)
- Scream Thy Last Scream - 08-18-2005 11:09 AM
jumpy, me oul sod, how was your day?
- AndersonCouncill - 08-18-2005 11:57 AM
Well and good. Well and good.
- Scream Thy Last Scream - 08-18-2005 12:40 PM
good, good, good. whats your fav song between the three albums do you like most....mine has to be the bravery of being out of range. the lyrcs portray a barfly at his best. they carry you to inside a war, and the asshole drunk who believes he knows everything about it, but knows f.uck all. the music is earth shattering. how can anyone who is a genius be able to better himself like this?
- AndersonCouncill - 08-18-2005 01:14 PM
Sexual Revolution
Me Or Him
The Bravery Of Being Out Of Range
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- Scream Thy Last Scream - 08-18-2005 01:18 PM
cool man. but just give us one from the three albums?
- AndersonCouncill - 08-18-2005 01:33 PM
Sexual Revolution
- Scream Thy Last Scream - 08-18-2005 01:40 PM
okay
now ...you worse..(i know its not possible to have a rog song thats bad, so ill rephrase tthat)...your 'least -likely -for -you - to - hum tune..
mine is home from radio kaos.
- AndersonCouncill - 08-18-2005 01:58 PM
Radio Waves. Its downright bad.
- pointmeatthesky - 08-18-2005 02:05 PM
Radio Waves is great you fool!!!!!!
- AndersonCouncill - 08-18-2005 02:08 PM
Pros And Cons Of Hitchhiking part 10 is way better, you fool!
- Scream Thy Last Scream - 08-18-2005 02:15 PM
jesus, radio waves is the best song on the album
- AndersonCouncill - 08-18-2005 04:05 PM
No way. To pop.
- The_Price_Of_A_Tea_And_A_slice - 08-18-2005 06:00 PM
!) Pros and Cons
@) Amused to Death
#) Radio
Pros and Cons is fantastic. Amused to Death - the vocals are started to get weak, and by Radio, he's shot.
- pointmeatthesky - 08-18-2005 06:50 PM
The_Price_Of_A_Tea_And_A_Slice Wrote:!) Pros and Consyou know radio came out before amused to death right? Your lists sounds like your speaking chronologically.
@) Amused to Death
#) Radio
Pros and Cons is fantastic. Amused to Death - the vocals are started to get weak, and by Radio, he's shot.
- Scream Thy Last Scream - 08-19-2005 02:26 AM
AndersonCouncill Wrote:No way. To pop.roger waters pop??? it was th e era and the concept of the album. but its just my opinion....it is the best song on the album.
- A New Machine - 08-19-2005 03:19 PM
Four Minutes is the KAOS masterpiece (But I will refrain from using the term "fool", as Radio Waves is another excellent song).
- Scream Thy Last Scream - 08-19-2005 03:21 PM
i digress :D
- AndersonCouncill - 08-19-2005 03:22 PM
A New Machine Wrote:Four Minutes is the KAOS masterpiece (But I will refrain from using the term "fool", as Radio Waves is another excellent song).Four Minutes is wonderful. The sense of impendng doom is fantastic. Its like something Sam Raimi would think of.
- A New Machine - 08-19-2005 06:31 PM
It's the culmination of everything the album stands for, and The Tide is Turning is a sweet sounding ripoff of outside the wall.
- AndersonCouncill - 08-20-2005 12:41 PM
And I love the way Amused To Death progresses through itself and slowly reaches its destination.
- Love In Spite Of Traffic - 08-20-2005 01:10 PM
Last night I listened to Pros And Cons. Lied in bed with headphones and listened all the way threw. AMAZING. Best vocals Roger has ever done and the music is so cool. The story is really moving. And just some great tunes too...Go Fishing, Every Strangers Eyes, etc. Deffinatley my new fav from Rog.
- echoofseamus - 08-24-2005 06:33 PM
This is tough, but...
1. Amused to Death
2. Pros and Cons
3. KAOS
Amused to Death has a number of good tracks. Perfect Sense, Bravery, Too Much Rope, Watching TV, It's a Miracle, and the title track are all great songs. I can't stand What god Wants (parts 1 and 2) because I hate the way Waters has to use background singers to sing most of them.
Pros and Cons is a very well written album. Pros and Cons and Every Stangers Eyes are great songs. It really reminds me of the Final Cut, how it all seems like 1 song.
KAOS has good music, but Roger's writing doesn't come into play as much in this one. 4 minutes is a great track with Radio Waves and Who Needs Information having good music.
- iNOMAD - 08-25-2005 01:24 PM
i like the best of the solo years, volume 1. (a flickering fame)
- Scream Thy Last Scream - 08-25-2005 02:19 PM
is that what its called? coz i have a cd with bob dylan songs and wywh in the studio done by roger. including extracts from ca ira. this is the final time im gonna say this as i was ignored when i found out i had it last week. :p
- mikeroach113 - 09-19-2005 06:32 PM
Roger is my idol, so anything is good. His solo stuff isn't as good as the stuff he did with Floyd, but it still kicks.
- AndersonCouncill - 09-25-2005 07:56 PM
iNOMAD and you have crappiest avatars I have ever seen.
And how do you guys rate:
Music From The Body
When The Wind Blows
The Wall: Live In Berlin
In The Flesh Live
Ca Ira
'cause I don't own any of them.
- AndersonCouncill - 09-25-2005 07:57 PM
This should be pinned.
- California Cooooool - 10-06-2005 09:54 AM
1) In The Flesh: The greatest live album in the history of this universe.
2) Amused To Death: Excellent!
3) Pros and Cons: Roger Waters....nuff said.
4) Radio Kaos. 80's or not, it sounds very cool.
- meno - 10-13-2005 10:15 AM
I would have to say
3. Pros and Cons
2. Radio K.A.O.S.
1.Amused to Death
Thats just me.
- pinkfloydfan1 - 10-13-2005 11:50 AM
i love the final cut the message it sends out to me is just brilliant
- White Like Jesus - 10-17-2005 07:53 PM
1. The Final Cut
2. Amused To Death
3. Pros & Cons
4. Radio KAOS
Some days I like Pros & Cons more than Amused To Death, so slots 2 and 3 change up depending on my mood.
- Summer '68 - 10-18-2005 10:23 AM
From memory - I recall an interview with Waters by Jim Ladd (DJ on Kaos [I think]). In the interview, Roger admitted that we was optimistic at the time of that album. One of the few times in his life. The Tide is Turning (after live aid) is a dead give away of this.
That point alone - makes KAOS compelling. It's also a concept album (as usual) and it's about the radio to an extent and obviously it reflects the sound of the time. Sadly, that's what gives the album its dated sound.
I still love it and it blows Momentary Lapse away - and I am a Gilmour guy. Dave is my idol. In high school, I wore a leather jacket and played a cream colored strat,ok?
For those who think KAOS is "light", I suggest a fresh listen.
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- Skol - 10-18-2005 10:47 AM
Since I last posted KAOS has started to grow on me alot. It eclipses Pros and Cons now. Part of the reason I began to feel this way was hearing the live shows - They worked so well!
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- Summer '68 - 10-18-2005 10:53 AM
Skol Wrote:Since I last posted KAOS has started to grow on me alot. It eclipses Pros and Cons now. Part of the reason I began to feel this way was hearing the live shows - They worked so well!VERY true.
The thing is, Pros and Cons was an AMAZING concert too.
KAOS was a good album, but when I saw the show - I was totally hooked. I went a few more times and played the album into the ground.
BTW ... What's your least hated favorite fish? :D
- White Like Jesus - 10-19-2005 08:42 AM
Summer '68 Wrote:From memory - I recall an interview with Waters by Jim Ladd (DJ on Kaos [I think]). In the interview, Roger admitted that we was optimistic at the time of that album. One of the few times in his life. The Tide is Turning (after live aid) is a dead give away of this.The lyrics are fantastic, I'll say that about KAOS. Sometimes you can carry a song with fantastic lyrics, even if the music isn't to your liking. But with this album, the music is SO bad that I'd personally be EMBARASSED to be caught listening to it. "Who Needs Information" is the only track with music I can tolerate.
That point alone - makes KAOS compelling. It's also a concept album (as usual) and it's about the radio to an extent and obviously it reflects the sound of the time. Sadly, that's what gives the album its dated sound.
I still love it and it blows Momentary Lapse away - and I am a Gilmour guy. Dave is my idol. In high school, I wore a leather jacket and played a cream colored strat,ok?
For those who think KAOS is "light", I suggest a fresh listen.
- djdnl14 - 10-26-2005 03:12 AM
imagine this Roger waters had done The Wall and Pink Floyd had done The Pros and Cons Of Hitch-hiking??? as both of them were written at the same time it's just that the boys chose The Wall as it was musically stronger :D would get people thinking though :Oo: :D
- Skol - 10-26-2005 08:23 AM
Summer '68 Wrote:I like to be home with my monkey and my dogSkol Wrote:Since I last posted KAOS has started to grow on me alot. It eclipses Pros and Cons now. Part of the reason I began to feel this way was hearing the live shows - They worked so well!VERY true.
The thing is, Pros and Cons was an AMAZING concert too.
KAOS was a good album, but when I saw the show - I was totally hooked. I went a few more times and played the album into the ground.
BTW ... What's your least hated favorite fish? :D
- White Like Jesus - 11-20-2005 04:45 PM
djdnl14 Wrote:imagine this Roger waters had done The Wall and Pink Floyd had done The Pros and Cons Of Hitch-hiking??? as both of them were written at the same time it's just that the boys chose The Wall as it was musically stronger :D would get people thinking though :Oo: :DWell, you might think that The Wall was better musically NOW upon hearing both albums, but back then, both albums weren't musically written; they were concepts. It's hard to say what Pros & Cons would have sounded like had the rest of Floyd helped write it.
- A New Machine - 11-20-2005 06:41 PM
Gilmour would have added more than one guitar riff to the album, making it much more enjoyable. Sure, he would have came back to it, as they did with In the Flesh and Outside the Wall, but he wouldn't have exhausted it, like Clapton did on Pros and Cons.
- AndersonCouncill - 11-29-2005 03:38 PM
A New Machine Wrote:Gilmour would have added more than one guitar riff to the album, making it much more enjoyable. Sure, he would have came back to it, as they did with In the Flesh and Outside the Wall, but he wouldn't have exhausted it, like Clapton did on Pros and Cons.Your sick. I love Gilmour but he would be attrocious on Pros And Cons. It justed wouldn't work. I mean, could you imagine Roger playing bass on About Face?
- AndersonCouncill - 11-29-2005 03:39 PM
White Like Jesus Wrote:djdn, you are incorrect. The Wall began in 1978 and Pros And Cons around 1984.djdnl14 Wrote:imagine this Roger waters had done The Wall and Pink Floyd had done The Pros and Cons Of Hitch-hiking??? as both of them were written at the same time it's just that the boys chose The Wall as it was musically stronger :D would get people thinking though :Oo: :DWell, you might think that The Wall was better musically NOW upon hearing both albums, but back then, both albums weren't musically written; they were concepts. It's hard to say what Pros & Cons would have sounded like had the rest of Floyd helped write it.
- pointmeatthesky - 11-30-2005 02:52 PM
AndersonCouncill Wrote:Pros and Cons was recorded around 1984, however it was written at the same time as The WallWhite Like Jesus Wrote:djdn, you are incorrect. The Wall began in 1978 and Pros And Cons around 1984.djdnl14 Wrote:imagine this Roger waters had done The Wall and Pink Floyd had done The Pros and Cons Of Hitch-hiking??? as both of them were written at the same time it's just that the boys chose The Wall as it was musically stronger :D would get people thinking though :Oo: :DWell, you might think that The Wall was better musically NOW upon hearing both albums, but back then, both albums weren't musically written; they were concepts. It's hard to say what Pros & Cons would have sounded like had the rest of Floyd helped write it.
- AndersonCouncill - 11-30-2005 03:37 PM
pointmeatthesky Wrote:Makes sense, as it is closely related to The Wall in story.AndersonCouncill Wrote:Pros and Cons was recorded around 1984, however it was written at the same time as The WallWhite Like Jesus Wrote:djdn, you are incorrect. The Wall began in 1978 and Pros And Cons around 1984.djdnl14 Wrote:imagine this Roger waters had done The Wall and Pink Floyd had done The Pros and Cons Of Hitch-hiking??? as both of them were written at the same time it's just that the boys chose The Wall as it was musically stronger :D would get people thinking though :Oo: :DWell, you might think that The Wall was better musically NOW upon hearing both albums, but back then, both albums weren't musically written; they were concepts. It's hard to say what Pros & Cons would have sounded like had the rest of Floyd helped write it.
- cevor - 11-30-2005 05:31 PM
AC that font color is brutal to read :Oo:
- AndersonCouncill - 11-30-2005 07:25 PM
cevor Wrote:AC that font color is brutal to read :Oo:Really? I quite like that color but if it really is difficult I will change it.
- scarlet eagle - 12-01-2005 07:25 PM
AndersonCouncill Wrote:I'm sure it would have an entirely different sound. I have recently purchased demos from the Wall, and although Gilmour is playing on these demos, the music on several songs are different than the released version.A New Machine Wrote:Gilmour would have added more than one guitar riff to the album, making it much more enjoyable. Sure, he would have came back to it, as they did with In the Flesh and Outside the Wall, but he wouldn't have exhausted it, like Clapton did on Pros and Cons.Your sick. I love Gilmour but he would be attrocious on Pros And Cons. It justed wouldn't work. I mean, could you imagine Roger playing bass on About Face?
- AndersonCouncill - 12-01-2005 08:36 PM
scarlet eagle Wrote:And in some cases superior...AndersonCouncill Wrote:I'm sure it would have an entirely different sound. I have recently purchased demos from the Wall, and although Gilmour is playing on these demos, the music on several songs are different than the released version.A New Machine Wrote:Gilmour would have added more than one guitar riff to the album, making it much more enjoyable. Sure, he would have came back to it, as they did with In the Flesh and Outside the Wall, but he wouldn't have exhausted it, like Clapton did on Pros and Cons.Your sick. I love Gilmour but he would be attrocious on Pros And Cons. It justed wouldn't work. I mean, could you imagine Roger playing bass on About Face?
- Eclipse73 - 12-06-2005 12:48 AM
3.Radio K.a.o.s
2.Pros and Cons
1.Amused to Death
- Sydney - 01-18-2006 02:33 PM
6.The Wall Live in Berlin: Some great songs, especially What Shall We do Now?, but at the same time some not so great versions of Floyd's best, but hey the idea is brilliant, staging The Wall where the wall once was? Great idea!
5.Pros and Cons of Hitchiking: Just got this album and not really into it yet, but I do love "In Every Stranger's Eye" already, so yeah, just give me some time.
4.Ca Ira: Not Roger's vocals, but some great music. Anyone who says that Roger doesn't do music well should listen to this! It's so beautiful!
3.Radio KAOS: Insult this if you will for sounding 80's cheesy, but I love it. It's a different side of Roger that isn't really seen much. I love the intro, Radio Waves and the conclusion, The Tide is Turning especially.
2.Roger Waters: Live In the Flesh: Some great rendentions of some old favorites, I personally love Roger's versions of Shine on You Crazy Diamond and Wish You Were Here. Also Roger's Eclipse has a special element to it as well, and what can top an ending like Each Small Candle?
1.Amused To Death: Most people's number one, and rightfully so. This album is amazing! Great songs, great ideas and a powerful conclusion. Roger once said that if this album had been released with the Pink Floyd name it would have rivaled Dark Side, and I agree with him. The album is virtually flawless!
- Woof Oink Baaa - 01-19-2006 12:08 PM
I really don't get the appeal of ATD. It's almost unlistenable to me, with the exception of Watching TV.
- AndersonCouncill - 01-19-2006 08:33 PM
Woof Oink Baaa Wrote:I really don't get the appeal of ATD. It's almost unlistenable to me, with the exception of Watching TV.Well, thats always better.
Chaos is unlistenable (except for Me Or Him).
- Woof Oink Baaa - 01-19-2006 09:55 PM
You're nuts, d00d. KAOS is absolutely flawless, with the exception of that one part in The Powers That Be where that weirdo comes in on vocals.
- pointmeatthesky - 01-19-2006 10:35 PM
Woof Oink Baaa Wrote:You're nuts, d00d. KAOS is absolutely flawless, with the exception of that one part in The Powers That Be where that weirdo comes in on vocals.Oh gos that is so incredibly dreadful. That song, it's just, icky.
But KAOS still owns my friends, it owns!
- Woof Oink Baaa - 01-20-2006 12:08 PM
It'd be a good song if that guy didn't come in on vocals.
Overall, KAOS is a really strong album and alot more uplifting (The Tide Is Turning, people) than anything Rog has ever produced.
- cevor - 01-20-2006 01:49 PM
I prefer KAOS to his other solo material, I believe we're going to work it up and play it live this year.....in it's stunning entirety...
- Sydney - 01-21-2006 04:20 PM
Woof Oink Baaa Wrote:I really don't get the appeal of ATD. It's almost unlistenable to me, with the exception of Watching TV.Watching TV is my favorite song off the album. I really love the intro, The Ballad of Bill Hubbard and the finale, Amused to Death. It reminds me of the intro and conclusion of Dark Side of the Moon. Easy intro, grande finale. I don't know what it is about ATD, but there's something special about it.
- Henr1k - 03-29-2006 02:15 PM
The problem with Roger is that....he just hasnt recorded enough albums. Too many years wasted in recording terms, and we are the ones to lose out.
Amused to death: All the usual Floyd trademarks, all it needs is David and you would have one of the best Floyd albums ever.
KAOS: So 80s, a silly plot but some powerful music as well, not like anything he has done before or after. Power That be, Sunset Strip, Tide is turning are my favs. Not a bad album at all, but not brill.
Pros and Cons: Similar to Final Cut, almost same line up, but too wordy and low on the tune count in comparason. Roger either screams his heart out or whisper softly. Musically less interesting, still a good album compared to what else is around on the radio.
The wind blows: Dark, dark, dark....depressingly dark despite a good tune or 2.
- mabewa - 04-28-2006 06:03 AM
Quote:The problem with Roger is that....he just hasnt recorded enough albums. Too many years wasted in recording terms, and we are the ones to lose out.
Yeah, I agree. In fact, none of the Floyd's have been very productive since the early 80's. Still, who woulda thunk that in 2006, Roger Waters would still have only 3 solo albums?
- Dragonrider - 05-16-2006 03:46 PM
Mate
#1 Amused to Death- This is his best work foresure, I like how he knocks the polies and the idiots who follow them blindly. His voice isn't the best though
#2 Pros and Cons- I absoultly loved the music but found it a little too dark, this is my feeling depessed today album
#3 Radio Chaos- I hate 80's. **** music but I do love Tide is Turning and Who Needs Infomation, I'm afraid they don't save the cd though
I love WAters
- Sydney - 05-16-2006 07:18 PM
Dragonrider Wrote:#3 Radio Chaos- I hate 80's. **** music but I do love Tide is Turning and Who Needs Infomation, I'm afraid they don't save the cd thoughIt's so different to hear Waters using music that is easily dated...and even I, one of the biggest Waters fans in the world, was intially caught of guard when I first listened to KAOS. However I continued listening to it, with thanks to pointmeatthesky :;): , and the more I listened to it, the more I liked it. I think its different from anything Roger's ever done and the album uniqueness and upbeat tempo is really cool and an interesting break from what we're used to hearing from Roger.
So I say three cheers for Radio KAOS. Is it Amused To Death? No. But it is Roger Waters and it is darn good. :)
- Dragonrider - 05-17-2006 05:28 PM
Sorry Sydney but I think if you listen to any cd long enough u will eventually enjoy it.
It's the muasic which sucked me in2 P.F. It's the music I look for and to be perfectly honest I prefer to listen to rap then to anything 80's, even if it's by The Man. ???
- White Like Jesus - 05-23-2006 11:37 AM
Quote:I hate 80's. **** music but I do love Tide is Turning and Who Needs Infomation, I'm afraid they don't save the cd thoughWho Needs Information actually has some pretty sounding keyboards in it, I think. It's cheese from the 80s I don't mind eating. The rest, though...bleh!
- Sydney - 05-23-2006 01:06 PM
Dragonrider Wrote:Sorry Sydney but I think if you listen to any cd long enough u will eventually enjoy it.Trust me I have a particular album, which I will not mention by name, that I've tried to get into for almost two years, and it ain't happening.
It's the muasic which sucked me in2 P.F. It's the music I look for and to be perfectly honest I prefer to listen to rap then to anything 80's, even if it's by The Man. ???
And btw it was lyrics that got me into Floyd so I guess we look for different things.
- Radio Slaver - 05-23-2006 01:19 PM
I like Pros & Cons alright, but the two best songs off it, to me at least, are Dunroamin, Duncarin, Dunlivin, and the title track. I think I'm gonna try to pick up Radio KAOS this weekend.
later Amused To Death.
Than on to Rick, Dave and Nick's solo albums, ect.
In approximately that order.
- rogerwatersnumber1fan - 05-26-2006 11:13 AM
3: pros and cons of hitchhiking was very good but compared to the other two i am going to mention now it was only medium (in my opinion sorry to others who like it)
2: radio kaos was my first album i heard of his solo stuff i really got in to it and then i got in to the other albums i managed to convert some of my friends to liking roger waters with this album
1: amused to death in my opinion is one of the greatest album ever i can't describe it in words its so great roger waters should be so proud when he listens to it
- tabes - 06-12-2006 10:09 AM
3. Radio Kaos. Really like it, but out of the three I have to rank it third, not for any one specific reason.
2. Pros and Cons. A little weak on the music here and there, but the concept is great, the lyrics are great and sometimes haunting (no pun intended), and the thematics and drama is top notch. Great stuff.
1. ATD. The marriage of great music and great lyrics. Some extremely underated songs on it (Watching TV for example).Can't say much more that hasn't already been said, and I don't want to repeat others. Superb album, his best.
- albatroz - 06-12-2006 04:54 PM
Let's try something.
1. Pros and Cons...
2. Music from the body. It's very creative, althoug it has the participation of ron geesin, you can find there the first steps to DSOTM.
3. Amused to Death. It's very long and more depressive.
4. When the wind Blows. It's very similar to Roger's work on The Wall and FC and PACOH
5. Radio Kaos. No coments
- ApocalypseKurtz - 06-12-2006 05:48 PM
Amused to Death - 10 / 10 doesnt get much better than this.
Radio KAOS - 7 / 10 fun and catchy, lyrics good and great at times
Pros and Cons - 6 / 10 still haven't really gotten into the entire album
- Radio Slaver - 06-15-2006 12:01 PM
1. Radio K.A.O.S.
2. Pros & Cons
yet to pick up Amused to Death
I"d like a live show of KAOS, with the three others songs I've heard about. anyone want to talk trade or gift to me, PM me :alien:
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- AndersonCouncill - 07-01-2006 12:28 AM
Sydney Wrote:it was lyrics that got me into Floyd so I guess we look for different things.It was for me too. Its still the most important part, but the more I get into it I realize that lyrics and music are like peanut butter and jelly--Peanut butter (music) is kind of bland but good. Jelly (lyrics) withouth peanut butter though, is overpowering and sops through the bread (the listener) that holds it in place.
Godammit I am one smart motherfucker.
- wall fan - 07-20-2006 11:28 AM
ive got to say the wall is the best album and the absolute best movie ever!!!
- IbanezIsTheColour - 07-24-2006 10:14 PM
wall fan Wrote:ive got to say the wall is the best album and the absolute best movie ever!!!last I checked that wasnt a Waters solo album.... :upside: , and take it easy on the smilies
anyway, I havent got any solo albums yet, and it seems that Amused to Death is the common favorite, so should I get that first?
- AndersonCouncill - 07-25-2006 11:38 PM
IbanezIsTheColour Wrote:[quote]I havent got any solo albums yet, and it seems that Amused to Death is the common favorite, so should I get that first?Pros And Cons if you like The Wall/Animals/TFC, Radio KAOS if you liked, umm, nothing, and Amused To Death if you like the expierimental days, where you could put on a Floyd album and hear all types of music.
- AndersonCouncill - 07-25-2006 11:39 PM
AndersonCouncill Wrote:Godammitt I am one narcissistic motherfucker.Sydney Wrote:it was lyrics that got me into Floyd so I guess we look for different things.It was for me too. Its still the most important part, but the more I get into it I realize that lyrics and music are like peanut butter and jelly--Peanut butter (music) is kind of bland but good. Jelly (lyrics) withouth peanut butter though, is overpowering and sops through the bread (the listener) that holds it in place.
Godammit I am one smart motherfucker.
- Wings on the Pig - 07-26-2006 01:39 AM
wall fan Wrote:ive got to say the wall is the best album and the absolute best movie ever!!!Two questions really.
1. Why do you have to talk about the Wall in every post you make?
2. Why do you use 10 emoticons every time you post?
Back to the topic, I haven't got any of his solo albums but am hoping to get them very soon.
- mabewa - 07-26-2006 07:08 AM
Start with Amused to Death.
- Wings on the Pig - 07-26-2006 07:15 AM
Thanks for the suggestion mabewa. I will start with getting Amused to Death as I have heard very good reviews about it.
- mmarconi - 08-12-2006 09:18 PM
AndersonCouncill Wrote:Yeah, its fun. But so are Poison. And if your a big Poison fan than get off the site.I didn't particularly care for the 80's or poison for that matter and it's just a freaking pop record...get over it...
Quote:The eightiesness is what makes it so fun!
I REALLY LIKE RADIO KAOS, altho
1-Pro n cons
2-Radio Kaos
- mmarconi - 08-21-2006 09:33 PM
I really like Pros and cons..If just for Clapton and the Dobro parts
Radio Kaos has Always been # 2 for me..I guess I got the album at some point in my life that it stuck..Still listen to it a lot..but like Pros better
Never much cared for Amused to Death
- Sydney - 08-22-2006 10:23 AM
I've noticed that most people only rank 3 albums for Roger. I would suggest that everyone take a listen at Roger's latest album. Yes, I'm talking about Ca Ira. No Roger's not singing, but his music is beautiful. Everyone should hear it, especially those who think Roger can't write some great music (and can only do lyrics). Check it out, it is more like a musical (think Les Miserables) than an opera, so I think most people would actually like it.
Also for those looking to get Roger solo stuff, you could always start with "In The Flesh Live" that way you get some classic Floyd and hear some Roger solo stuff-that's how I got started. (Also you can clearly hear that Roger can still sing!
:;): )
- AndersonCouncill - 09-10-2006 12:22 PM
Sydney Wrote:I've noticed that most people only rank 3 albums for Roger. I would suggest that everyone take a listen at Roger's latest album. Yes, I'm talking about Ca Ira. No Roger's not singing, but his music is beautiful. Everyone should hear it, especially those who think Roger can't write some great music (and can only do lyrics). Check it out, it is more like a musical (think Les Miserables) than an opera, so I think most people would actually like it.Could you give me your opinions on the following, Erie? I don't have any of them and I need to complete my Roger collection. I just realized I have hours more of Jello Biafra related material than Roger Waters related material and was aghast!
Also for those looking to get Roger solo stuff, you could always start with "In The Flesh Live" that way you get some classic Floyd and hear some Roger solo stuff-that's how I got started. (Also you can clearly hear that Roger can still sing!
Music From The Body
When The Wind Blows
The Wall: Live In Berlin 1990
In The Flesh Live
Ca Ira
- Sydney - 09-10-2006 12:50 PM
AndersonCouncill Wrote:In The Flesh is where I'd start on your list of things to get. It is breathtaking work. Roger's voice sounds good and the song choice is great toon, not to mention the awesome version of Shine On You Crazy Diamond. Roger also includes the great "Each Small Candle" which is beautiful.Sydney Wrote:I've noticed that most people only rank 3 albums for Roger. I would suggest that everyone take a listen at Roger's latest album. Yes, I'm talking about Ca Ira. No Roger's not singing, but his music is beautiful. Everyone should hear it, especially those who think Roger can't write some great music (and can only do lyrics). Check it out, it is more like a musical (think Les Miserables) than an opera, so I think most people would actually like it.Could you give me your opinions on the following, Erie? I don't have any of them and I need to complete my Roger collection. I just realized I have hours more of Jello Biafra related material than Roger Waters related material and was aghast!
Also for those looking to get Roger solo stuff, you could always start with "In The Flesh Live" that way you get some classic Floyd and hear some Roger solo stuff-that's how I got started. (Also you can clearly hear that Roger can still sing!
Music From The Body
When The Wind Blows
The Wall: Live In Berlin 1990
In The Flesh Live
Ca Ira
Then I'd probably go for The Wall:Live In Berlin. Though some of the acts aren't the best, Roger does a great job and the company singing "The Tide is Turning" is a great finale-it is really spectacular.
Ca Ira is an opera, not a rock opera either. Roger never sings. Just realize that. I can't stress that enough. The music is fantastic though. You can here the Floydian influence Roger brings to the story of the days leading to the French Revolution.
As for the other two I can not comment. I don't have those albums. I am trying to find "A Flickering Flame" to add to my collection, but I will keep an eye out for those too.
- AndersonCouncill - 09-10-2006 12:55 PM
I've heard Overture from Ca Ira. I loved it.
- Sydney - 09-10-2006 12:56 PM
Well then go for it, I love it.
- Woof Oink Baaa - 09-10-2006 01:06 PM
Ca Ira is boooooorrrrrrriiiinnnnnngggggggg. :sleepy:
The overture is quite good, though.
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- AndersonCouncill - 09-11-2006 04:14 AM
Woof Oink Baaa Wrote:Ca Ira is boooooorrrrrrriiiinnnnnngggggggg. :sleepy:As you are both very intelligent, I will take your opinion into consideration, Woofie. Though, I'm slightly biased towards Sydney, as she is a member of the fairer sex, and most men tend to find things boring. Oh, and you think football is boring. If you dislike everything between football and opera, you must dislike just about everything ???
The overture is quite good, though.
- kristina - 09-13-2006 05:34 PM
i have two extra tickets to the roger waters concert in toronto
wednesday september 20 2006..anyone interested
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- Sydney - 09-13-2006 05:39 PM
AndersonCouncill Wrote:Woofie dislikes Amused to Death! He says that is boring!Woof Oink Baaa Wrote:Ca Ira is boooooorrrrrrriiiinnnnnngggggggg. :sleepy:As you are both very intelligent, I will take your opinion into consideration, Woofie. Though, I'm slightly biased towards Sydney, as she is a member of the fairer sex, and most men tend to find things boring. Oh, and you think football is boring. If you dislike everything between football and opera, you must dislike just about everything ???
The overture is quite good, though.
So I think by default my opinion triumphs.
- AndersonCouncill - 09-13-2006 05:44 PM
Sydney Wrote:I was holding your opinion in higher regard anyways :;):AndersonCouncill Wrote:Woofie dislikes Amused to Death! He says that is boring!Woof Oink Baaa Wrote:Ca Ira is boooooorrrrrrriiiinnnnnngggggggg. :sleepy:As you are both very intelligent, I will take your opinion into consideration, Woofie. Though, I'm slightly biased towards Sydney, as she is a member of the fairer sex, and most men tend to find things boring. Oh, and you think football is boring. If you dislike everything between football and opera, you must dislike just about everything ???
The overture is quite good, though.
- AndersonCouncill - 02-12-2007 12:10 PM
Look at the first page, me and Zach used to be such nice little tykes, not the cynical old bastards we are now.
- ComfortablyNumb212 - 02-12-2007 12:38 PM
AndersonCouncill Wrote:1.Pros And Cons Of Hitchhiking--Roger at his finest. His vocals are top notch, as are his lyrics. This album is a step up from The Final Cut in that its not as tense. My guess as to why this is would be that he was no longer under the pressure of making a Pink Floyd album so he just said **** it, I'm getting an all-female backing R&B band and Eric Clapton and I'm just going to go nuts. The flow is perfect, and, perhaps more than even Dark Side Of The Moon, when listened to in its entirety it feels as though it was one big song.You are my new lover.
- sjmcd - 02-13-2007 05:31 AM
3. The Pros And Cons Of Hitchhiking - Rather boring, I've only listened to it all the way through twice, and I have no desire to listen to it again.
2. Radio KAOS - A good album, but it just doesn't quite get there, if you know what I mean. It's like it finishes and you're still expecting more.
1. Amused To Death - Roger Waters' musical genius, summarised in a single album. I prefer this album to Animals, The Wall and The Final Cut. A truly outstanding piece of work.
- FloydFreak - 02-22-2007 03:59 PM
Here we go...in order of personal likability:
Pros & Cons - The guitar work on that album is just incredible, and the depths that Rog takes his emotional input into the music is awesome!
Amused to Death - Love the message! Wish more people on the earth would tune in....THROW AWAY YOUR TV!!! :)
Radio - Catchy stuff....not realy sure what to make of it though. But it's Rog, and I love that man's music!
- kickthebucket - 04-25-2007 01:27 PM
Amused to death is in my opinion his best solo album.
I also like the new song 'leaving beirut' .
I can't wait for a new studio album.
A dvd from the DSOTM tour will be fine ???
And a reunion of PINK FLOYD would be nice.
But .. hey ... i'm not the only one
- waters4224 - 04-30-2007 12:19 PM
All great but if i hade to make an order:
1.Amused to Death
2. Pros and Cons
3. Radio KAOS
- Back Together - 05-01-2007 08:04 AM
Amused to Death is quite simply an awesome piece of work and mostly underated by non-fans.
- GREEN FLOYD - 08-10-2007 03:39 PM
well there are some great answers to this!! roger is a genius and his solo work is much better than gilmours. dave is an outstanding guitarist but lacks at writing great lyrics.
RE: How do you rate the albums? - lostplay - 12-29-2007 01:38 PM
pro and con and waves are not so good a few good songs
ATD rocks out
atd is more floyd to me than bell or lapse
no offence intended i also feel meltdown is a floyd album too !!!
roger > dylan >lennon were only a few who could pull off great music and be political
peace
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RE: How do you rate the albums? - Monolith - 01-11-2008 08:24 AM
1.Amused to Death
2.The Pros and Cons of Hitch Hiking
3.Radio K.A.O.S.
RE: How do you rate the albums? - Panzer at the Gates of Dawn - 01-31-2008 10:46 PM
RE: How do you rate the albums? - noname - 02-01-2008 12:59 PM
Amused to Death ranks #1...even though I don't agree with a dang thing hypocrite Roger says, it is an incredible album and work of art....poignant and clever. Very cohesive and thought provoking.....but Roger's music is not my cup of tea anymore..
As far as me saying "hypocrite Roger", well IMO he is, but that is neither here nor there.....
I will be the first one to admit that I am a hypocrite too....[/i]
but back to topic, Amused to Death is #1
RE: How do you rate the albums? - SgtPepper67 - 03-30-2008 05:53 PM
1. Amused to Death: great album, almost as good as some Pink Floyd albums, definitely his strongest solo release.
2. Radio K.A.O.S: the production sounds too 80's and it's a bit uneven but it has some really good songs
3. The Pros and Cons of Hitch Hiking: not bad, but too me it sounds like The Wall and The Final Cut leftovers
RE: - roryguiry - 05-22-2008 06:36 AM
I don't believe you can say one album is better than another, all his stuff is as good as the next. Your not a true waters fan if you think one's better than the other.
RE: How do you rate the albums? - Xardie - 05-22-2008 09:22 AM
roryguiry Wrote:I don't believe you can say one album is better than another, all his stuff is as good as the next. Your not a true waters fan if you think one's better than the other.
That's ridiculous claim. Artist can and should be criticized.
Ultimate and gross example: I like someones painting and can be considered fan of his work. He then goes off and paints my house with his own shit. Yes, with his own shit. So I much love that piece of art because I am (or after that was) fan of his?
I guess I've done this before but
3. Pros and Cons of Hitch Hiking
Worst album I own and one of worst ever recorded. Torment
2. Radio KAOS
mind numbingly unimpressive and boring record. Stupidest concept ever for which Rog deserves to be shot. Radio Waves is ok and Tide Is Turning is good. Rest is naff
1. Amused To Death
Absolute masterpiece and one of the best albums of all time
RE: How do you rate the albums? - flaming_pie - 05-22-2008 03:42 PM
1.) The Pros And Cons Of Hitch-Hiking
2.) Amused To Death
3.) Radio KAOS
"Pros And Cons" was the first solo Roger album I ever bought, so I guess I'm just biased?
"Hey girl, as I always said...I prefer your lips red"
RE: How do you rate the albums? - mabewa - 05-22-2008 04:30 PM
Xardie Wrote:roryguiry Wrote:I don't believe you can say one album is better than another, all his stuff is as good as the next. Your not a true waters fan if you think one's better than the other.
That's ridiculous claim. Artist can and should be criticized.
Ultimate and gross example: I like someones painting and can be considered fan of his work. He then goes off and paints my house with his own crap. Yes, with his own crap. So I much love that piece of art because I am (or after that was) fan of his?
I guess I've done this before but
3. Pros and Cons of Hitch Hiking
Worst album I own and one of worst ever recorded. Torment
2. Radio KAOS
mind numbingly unimpressive and boring record. Stupidest concept ever for which Rog deserves to be shot. Radio Waves is ok and Tide Is Turning is good. Rest is naff
1. Amused To Death
Absolute masterpiece and one of the best albums of all time
LOL, that's pretty harsh! Although I totally agree with you about being able to criticize artists.
I also agree that ATD is really head and shoulders over the other two albums, but I like a lot of the tunes on Radio KAOS, and Pros and Cons has great playing and some good singing from Roger... it's mostly the tunes, or lack of thereof, that turns me off from the album. Plus most of the lyrics don't really touch me in the way that many of Roger's lyrics do.
RE: How do you rate the albums? - Hey You Tribute - 11-17-2008 07:59 AM
Ok so I admit I love all of Roger's material.
Anyway
Pros and Cons
Radio kaos
Amused to death
We get so many requests to play songs off of Radio Kaos...but alas its not Pink Floyd...
RE: How do you rate the albums? - rogerwatersman - 12-11-2008 02:07 AM
mabewa Wrote:[quote=Xardie]
[quote=roryguiry]
I don't believe you can say one album is better than another, all his stuff is as good as the next. Your not a true waters fan if you think one's better than the other.
I don't really understand how to use these commands so I'm just hoping my message comes through. I couldn't agree with the above comment more. I can't name my favorite Roger Waters album because they are all my favorites, but I can say I love all of them and listen to all of them equally.
RE: How do you rate the albums? - MacPhisto - 12-11-2008 08:18 PM
Roger's solo career is boring.
There, that oughta shake things up a little.
RE: How do you rate the albums? - Xardie - 12-12-2008 04:02 AM
Glukkonitis Wrote:Roger's solo career is boring.
There, that oughta shake things up a little.
so it is
minus ATD
RE: How do you rate the albums? - MacPhisto - 12-12-2008 05:10 AM
No. Sorry.
RE: How do you rate the albums? - lotus - 01-13-2009 03:02 PM
i never had a chance to listen to his solo albums. are there any good songs or is it just because you're huuuuge fans? (i'm not being sarcastic).
RE: How do you rate the albums? - twodogs100 - 01-16-2009 02:32 AM
I like them all,
but Amused to Death is my fav by a long shot.
RE: How do you rate the albums? - BooTheGhost - 02-16-2009 06:15 PM
I like Pros and Cons and Amused to Death much more than I like anything accomplished in Pink Floyd. Although Radio KAOS has a few good songs, I don't really like it that much.
The Pros and Cons of Hitchhiking is a masterpiece. There will probably never be a better album.
RE: How do you rate the albums? - amusedtd - 03-15-2009 07:48 PM
I hve to say, there isn't anything Roger wrote that I don't love to listen to, however, Amused To Death and Ca Ira are my favorites, especially ATD is a total masterpiece.
RE: How do you rate the albums? - nickahrens - 03-26-2009 02:44 PM
I was told Ca Ira had the melodies of pros & cons throughout, but found the double CD a drudge to listen to. I love floyd, and waters solo. I also love operas, especially the likes of Puccini and Carmina Burana, but I just can't get into Ca Ira.
Get When the wind blows. Classic waters material. Very under-rated.
RE: How do you rate the albums? - nickahrens - 03-26-2009 02:51 PM
lotus Wrote:i never had a chance to listen to his solo albums. are there any good songs or is it just because you're huuuuge fans? (i'm not being sarcastic).
While, like Floyd, most of the Waters material is based around creating an album rather than a three minute song, the title track of Pros and Cons of Hitchhiking is particularly good as a stand-alone track, and I would strongly recommend it... and not forgetting "The Tide is Turning" from the end of KAOS, this is a classic.
Best Cd - Asyd - 05-26-2009 11:46 AM
4. Radio K.A.O.S-All time awesome
3. Amused to Death-Just Plain Amazing
2. The Pros and Cons of Hitch Hiking-Just a plain classic, just about unbeatable
1.Now this is technically a pink floyd cd but roger waters wrote every song, The Final Cut-its such a beutiful masterpiece, that is one of my favorite cds of all time
RE: Best Cd - cevor - 05-26-2009 11:53 AM
Welcome to the forum Asyd. I'd say.....
3. TPACOH, not a fan
2. KAOS, love it!
1. ATD, by far Roger's best solo effort
RE: How do you rate the albums? - emonerd826 - 11-27-2009 06:19 PM
Amused to Death
Pros and Cons
KAOS
RE: How do you rate the albums? - silverpot - 11-28-2009 06:24 AM
RE: How do you rate the albums? - BecDudek - 12-02-2009 06:41 PM
3. Radio KAOS - still brilliant but would be better if rog kept "Going to live in LA" and "Get back to radio" on there.
2. Amused to death - His best songs are on here but i don't think its the best album as a whole.
1. The Pros and Cons of Hitchhiking - Brilliant album, Each song flows into the next perfectly, my favourite album ever!
RE: How do you rate the albums? - wot's uh the deal? - 02-16-2010 04:44 AM
Radio kaos has some decent tracks on it but it is too far fetched to be taken seriously and the 80's overproduction and references to Reagan have dated it considerably. I still like the song which has the line " billy turned the dial to his short wave radio " etc.[me or him]
waters has not released a new solo rock album since the early 90's which is lame.
RE: How do you rate the albums? - Riff Raff - 05-04-2010 04:22 PM
Being a Pink Floyd fan for 35 years I actually am fairly new to Roger Waters solo material (about 5 years now), and have come to the conclusion that he Just keeps getting better.
Great - Radio Kaos
Amazingly Great - Pros and Cons of Hitchiking
Unbelieveably Great - Amused To Death
His music has so much depth to offer. I feel like I've been to the library after listening to it, hey I think it makes me smarter.
......Tickets in hand for the Wall Live Tour, row 34 on the floor, ( I can not bear to wait the whole summer)
Keep it coming Roger~
RE: How do you rate the albums? - Floydy - 06-15-2010 06:35 AM
I find it hard to rate Rogers albums cause I love each one on different merits. Pros and Cons I think is a brilliant album, very well put together and the concept is original. Kaos, even though it sounds very 80s-ish, has some outstanding tracks, Me or Him, Who Needs Information and The Tide is Turning are 3 of my favourites. Amused to Death is a great album. I find it gets a bit slow in places but generally that album is supurb.
RE: How do you rate the albums? - shockwave6668 - 07-09-2010 09:37 PM
Even his non-album tracks are just wonderful! He does more single songs now than he does albums, and most of those are just very heart! The Last Mimzy was like "Damn he still has it!" Beirut is good after every listen, as is Small Candle. He might not be commercial, but he's so much more heartful and willing to sacrifice his name for what he believe in!
RE: How do you rate the albums? - Skavenger - 11-09-2011 07:34 AM
1. Amused to Death is a near masterpiece.
2. Pros & Cons is still very Floydian sounding, but lacking in a lot of musical direction.
3. Radio KAOS ... I love Rog, but this is not what I expected. I mean both he and Dave went all 80s in the 80s like everyone, but thankfully both returned to their roots after that terrible leap. TDB and ATD were great albums.
RE: How do you rate the albums? - Rykeys - 11-20-2011 02:03 AM
KAOS is my favourite. Unfortuneatlely musically like most 80's albums it's sound and tonatlity is reminiscent of the period. Lyrically is has more relevance in the last 10 years than it has ever had.
RE: How do you rate the albums? - Mother77 - 06-19-2012 08:49 PM
Pros and Cons of Hitchhiking *****
Complete album and underrated masterpiece. Only gets dissed by people who haven't actually heard the album. One of the best things Roger has ever done.
Radio KAOS **
Not great. Listen to it very rarely. Roger's voice lacks expression. The less said about the concept the better.
Amused to Death ***
Have always struggled somewhat. Need to revisit it but has some golden moments, it's all a bit tedious and whiney.
RE: How do you rate the albums? - quicksilver - 06-20-2012 06:01 AM
(06-19-2012 08:49 PM)Mother77 Wrote: Pros and Cons of Hitchhiking *****
Complete album and underrated masterpiece. Only gets dissed by people who haven't actually heard the album. One of the best things Roger has ever done.
Radio KAOS **
Not great. Listen to it very rarely. Roger's voice lacks expression. The less said about the concept the better.
Amused to Death ***
Have always struggled somewhat. Need to revisit it but has some golden moments, it's all a bit tedious and whiney.
Pros and Cons is my favorite as well. It takes a lot of twists and turns which I love.
RE: How do you rate the albums? - bulletproof mask - 08-25-2012 08:57 PM
1. ATD - better than most Floyd albums
2. Pros
3. Radio