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- whong - 05-17-2006 05:06 AM
Was just reading through a recent interview article with Dave talking about the usual solo album and Floyd subject matter, but at one point, he opened up on the subject of vices.
He went on to say that around the time of his divorce from Ginger, he got into the "usual rock star coke lifestyle". The first I've heard of this, and never thought too much about it. Always figured Dave to be more of a pothead, really. When the subject of cocaine comes up, most fans will naturally think of Rick.
I must say, Gilmour nails it on the head with one line, and this is a direct quote....."It's a drug that does nothing for anyone." True words, those! Actually it turns people into shells of people. It has the ability to deceive it's user, building up false confidence, "allowing" them to become more talkative and all the rest. "It left me with a prematurely aged heart", was another comment Gilmour made on the subject.
The stuff is just bad for you, period. Even in moderation - if there's really such a thing with cocaine. I used to do quite a lot of coke for a period of about two years, going back some years now. Lived with a coke dealer, conveniently enough, so I always had easy access to it, and it became a daily part of life. I'd lost my drivers license to DUI for a year during this time, and I took up biking it to work. I remember usually doing no less than six "bumps" before hopping on my 14 speed racing bike and giving it everything I had, hauling ass to work, some 15-18 miles away. With the wind to my back, I could make it in about half an hour, most days. Looking back on that, I'm probably incredibly lucky that my heart didn't literally explode in my chest cavity.
The end for me was cold turkey. I just got pissed. I think I also freaked out a number of people I associated myself with at the time, with some of them thinking I'd become a narc or something. In fact, I had a bit of fun with that...heh-heh-heh! After awhile, after seeing what it really brings out in people......jaws and teeth grinding in nervous tension, those beady and greedy little eyes just fixed on the mirror getting past around, and not giving two shits about anything or anyone.....that's what coke's really about, I'd had enough of it. With just one really dumb exception a couple years later, I never did any again. The payback is huge.....you get your health back, you don't have perpetually messed up sinuses, and your finances improve greatly.
Yeah....I was a bit surprised at Dave's remarks on the subject, but he's absolutely right. In fact everything he said was spot on, and it's a good read. It's at the Outside The Wall site for anyone interested.....
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- floydianyid - 05-17-2006 06:13 AM
but is that a genuine gilmour interview? very interesting if it is but i have my doubts as pink floyd seem to be very secretive about drugs.
- whong - 05-17-2006 06:41 AM
Yeah...it seems to be the real thing. It came up in the interview, that's all. It didn't strike me as being contrived or anything like that. His bringing it up sort of struck me as being in defense of Polly, and things that she dealt with when they first hooked up.
- Sadie - 05-17-2006 05:45 PM
If Dave was doing coke at that time he would have gotten skinnier not fatter. Just saying. That's usually the case. I can't see him being a cokehead. But if it's true it's true. The premature heart thing makes me sad if it is true.
- floydian72 - 05-17-2006 05:48 PM
name me one rock star that doesent have some drug issue at some point.
- Sadie - 05-17-2006 05:50 PM
Roger Waters
He did some I'm sure, but there was no issue. Nothing like we're talking about with Dave here. And where is this interview? I can't find it.
- floydian72 - 05-17-2006 06:10 PM
im very sure roger had a small period where he was doing more drugs than usual, im not saying he was an addict but im saying its rock n roll it is unavoidable.
- Kimbers Sheep - 05-17-2006 06:45 PM
simply not true, many rock stars have not been drug addicts, be very careful of such generalizations
- OutsideTheWall - 05-17-2006 06:48 PM
The interview can be found on my site. I think on the On an Island page if I remember right. It also goes on about the very dim future of PF
- floydian72 - 05-17-2006 07:15 PM
Kimbers Sheep Wrote:simply not true, many rock stars have not been drug addicts, be very careful of such generalizationsi said not addict but i said theyre definetly going to experiment. nowadays from the early 90's on when awareness on drugs began then not everyone always experiments as much but in the 70's you just definetly did some.
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- SpitfireMkV - 05-17-2006 07:31 PM
Quote:The stuff is just bad for you, period. Even in moderation - if there's really such a thing with cocaine. I used to do quite a lot of coke for a period of about two years, going back some years now. Lived with a coke dealer, conveniently enough, so I always had easy access to it, and it became a daily part of life. I'd lost my drivers license to DUI for a year during this time, and I took up biking it to work. I remember usually doing no less than six "bumps" before hopping on my 14 speed racing bike and giving it everything I had, hauling ass to work, some 15-18 miles away. With the wind to my back, I could make it in about half an hour, most days. Looking back on that, I'm probably incredibly lucky that my heart didn't literally explode in my chest cavity.
Wow David Gilmour can bike pretty fast when he's on coke. I thought cocaine was only a stimulant and wouldn't have affects like that. I can bike pretty fast but not THAT fast, and I'm using a 21 speed bike. wait... /gets out calculator/
actually I probably can bike that fast but I'm good at biking :;):
- floydian72 - 05-17-2006 07:32 PM
he said he quit when he met polly so all is well that ends well right?
- floydian72 - 05-17-2006 07:52 PM
didnt wright have a much worse problem with coke? During the wall and on right
- Sadie - 05-17-2006 07:58 PM
floydian72 Wrote:name me one rock star that doesent have some drug issue at some point.Here's one I'm 100% sure of:
Roger Daltrey
He's into pysical fitness, not drugs. Always was that way. I'm sure I can think of more in time. I was going to say Paul McCartney, but he smokes pot. I don't really count that as a drug any more than alcohol, but I know most would so I didn't say him. It's definitely not an issue with him though. Well, except for when he got busted in Japan.
- floydian72 - 05-17-2006 08:02 PM
Sadie Wrote:but that is some point in time where he did it. i didnt mean to sound like i was saying all rock stars were like keith richards i just think that most have had their new experiences etc. Keith Moon was 100% clean right :D :D :Dfloydian72 Wrote:name me one rock star that doesent have some drug issue at some point.Here's one I'm 100% sure of:
Roger Daltrey
He's into pysical fitness, not drugs. Always was that way. I'm sure I can think of more in time. I was going to say Paul McCartney, but he smokes pot. I don't really count that as a drug any more than alcohol, but I know most would so I didn't say him. It's definitely not an issue with him though. Well, except for when he got busted in Japan.
- Sadie - 05-17-2006 08:10 PM
You said issues, so I was going from there. Daltrey never had any issues. He probably took one drug in his life if that. As for Keith Moon. What? Did he have an issue?
:D
- floydian72 - 05-17-2006 08:23 PM
besides having "the flu" periodically and the who shows had to be canceled no he was fine. why did they even bother lying about it
- PsychedelicLuciferSam - 05-17-2006 10:22 PM
Yeah I read a radio interview trancrsipt with Ginger Gilmour and she was saying how he was using more heavily when they were getting divorced. I will go and find that site later...
But Yeah how does someone who is doing apprently grand amounts of the drug put on so much weight? A very baffeling question.
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- Myriad Small Creature - 05-18-2006 06:40 AM
floydian72 Wrote:name me one rock star that doesent have some drug issue at some point.Gene Simmons.
Gene's vice is sex. He's never done drugs or even drank, even in the seventies when Kiss were in their heyday. Barring one time when he accidentally ate a lot "special brownies" (he says he has a sweet tooth), he claims never to have touched the stuff. It was mostly Ace and Peter's thing.
- whong - 05-18-2006 08:52 AM
Sadie Wrote:Roger WatersI think Roger has openly admitted in recent years, that he had done a good share of hashish, especially when he was trying to quit smoking cigarettes. Substituting one for the other, more less.....which in itself is odd. That'd be like trying to stop using coke, and substituting with heroin......well maybe not quite, but you get the idea.
He did some I'm sure, but there was no issue. Nothing like we're talking about with Dave here. And where is this interview? I can't find it.
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- SpitfireMkV - 05-19-2006 08:43 PM
PsychedelicLuciferSam Wrote:But Yeah how does someone who is doing apprently grand amounts of the drug put on so much weight? A very baffeling question.People lose weight when they do drugs because A) they run out of money for food or B) they do drugs instead of eating.
This usually only happens to total addicts and very poor users. Most stereotypes for drug are about these kinds of people so it is natural that people think that drug use will generally lead to weight loss.
If you have enough money for your habit and enough control so you will continue eating normally then you won't lose weight.
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- floydian72 - 05-19-2006 08:50 PM
ok at live 8 he was a bit overweight i guess but he was off coke for what 15 years by this point?
- Sadie - 05-19-2006 09:16 PM
SpitfireMkV Wrote:That's completely inacurate. People lose weight on cocaine because it's a stimulant. It suppresses the appetite. A lot of celebrities do it JUST to lose weight. Some doctors say it is so effective at suppressing the appetite that a person could actually become malnurished. So it just does not make sense that he gained so much weight if he had a significant cocaine problem. You ever see Elton John, Stevie Nicks or Kirstie Alley? They stopped taking it and gained a huge amount of weight.PsychedelicLuciferSam Wrote:But Yeah how does someone who is doing apprently grand amounts of the drug put on so much weight? A very baffeling question.People lose weight when they do drugs because A) they run out of money for food or B) they do drugs instead of eating.
This usually only happens to total addicts and very poor users. Most stereotypes for drug are about these kinds of people so it is natural that people think that drug use will generally lead to weight loss.
If you have enough money for your habit and enough control so you will continue eating normally then you won't lose weight.
AFTER they stopped.
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- floydian72 - 05-19-2006 09:42 PM
its like smoking.
- Echoes73 - 05-20-2006 08:16 AM
thats kind of disapointing :( , i have no problem with drugs as long as they are naturally occuring (pot,mushrooms,morning glory,etc.) and if they are not abused (used more than once a week tops) but coke just draws the line, a drug that is manmade cannot be good and cocaine does not expand the mind to other experiences like other substances
- whong - 05-20-2006 09:49 AM
Echoes73 Wrote:thats kind of disapointing :( , i have no problem with drugs as long as they are naturally occuring (pot,mushrooms,morning glory,etc.) and if they are not abused (used more than once a week tops) but coke just draws the line, a drug that is manmade cannot be good and cocaine does not expand the mind to other experiences like other substancesWell said......that about nails it.
- Echoes73 - 05-20-2006 10:39 AM
whong Wrote:i like ppl that have this same outlook about this kind of stuff they are the only ones that truly get it, i hate ppl that use a substance just to get WASTEDEchoes73 Wrote:thats kind of disapointing :( , i have no problem with drugs as long as they are naturally occuring (pot,mushrooms,morning glory,etc.) and if they are not abused (used more than once a week tops) but coke just draws the line, a drug that is manmade cannot be good and cocaine does not expand the mind to other experiences like other substancesWell said......that about nails it.
- Rogerwaterhasgonemad - 05-20-2006 11:17 PM
cocaine lead to tony montanas death and im sure gilmour did it watch his 80's show on you tube look at his eyes. we had problems and hes always been overwieght since about 78 and ive known some people on cocaine to still remain fat so yeah
- utopiandrive - 05-22-2006 10:07 PM
floydian72 Wrote:name me one rock star that doesent have some drug issue at some point.maynard james keenan (tool and a perfect circle)
thom yorke (radiohead)
- floydian72 - 05-22-2006 10:09 PM
utopiandrive Wrote:ok we've all quoted floydian72 with some clean exceptions.floydian72 Wrote:name me one rock star that doesent have some drug issue at some point.maynard james keenan (tool and a perfect circle)
thom yorke (radiohead)
- Pinks Pig - 05-22-2006 11:24 PM
If your high on drugs all the time it gets in the way of your contributions to the team.The cracks in the Floyd camp came just after the In The Flesh Tour.Dave didn't contribute much on The Wall and Rick as well,Rick was busy sailing around some Greek island.
With Dave coming out with it now maybe Rick will open up some more.Rick did with the song Wearing The Inside Out.
I'm creeping back to life
My nervous system all awry
I'm wearing the inside out
- mabewa - 05-23-2006 12:28 AM
Cocaine is just bad stuff, period. Nothing good to be said about it whatsover. Same with heroin and crystal meth. Never shoulda been invented.
- Philintheflesh - 06-01-2006 03:37 PM
whong Wrote:I think Roger has openly admitted in recent years, that he had done a good share of hashish, especially when he was trying to quit smoking cigarettes. Substituting one for the other, more less.....which in itself is odd. That'd be like trying to stop using coke, and substituting with heroin......well maybe not quite, but you get the idea.Roger Waters has tried the alcohol route to quit smoking as well....which is also bizarre, because personally, my nicotine cravings are at their worst when I drink.
When my friend Rich auditioned as a singer for Harry Waters` band, Harry told him that his old man was on 8 cans of Tennents Super a day (twice as strong as normal lager - "tramp-juice") in order to quit smoking.
Harry was living in a squat in South London at the time, and, after phoning his mobile, picked my mate up from the station in an absolute wreck of a car (which is strange, as his dad`s worth about 100 million).
My friend passed the audition, but turned Harry down ("not really my music" I think he said).
Harry Waters having your number on speed-dial must be weird.
My mate not being a PF fan, and it meaning very little to him is even weirder!
:D
- The Thin Ice of Modern Life - 06-03-2006 11:26 PM
^That's a crazy story. Harry Waters is a crazy story. Have you seen his hair? Jesus.
As for coke and the weight issue, it suppresses your appetite but if you take it for long enough it alters your metabolism. Most people gain some weight after some intense use.
I just don't believe in man made drugs...I think the worst has to be crystal meth (disgusting, frankly). I'm weary even of mushrooms, but only cause I've seen people have bad trips. Weed is more than enough for me. I don't think it should be even considered a drug. Personally, I find alcohol much more inhibiting and dangerous. Smoking only augments the finer things in life (music, good thinking/conversation, sex, etc. etc.)
:Doh and I forgot:
Quote:his old man was on 8 cans of Tennents Super a day (twice as strong as normal lager - "tramp-juice")
I'd like to see Roger Waters with a good buzz off "tramp juice" - lol. He seems like he'd be an angry drunk but really funny when stoned. Maybe I just assume that because that's how I am, and I think I have a similar twisted mind set. But hey, what the hell do I know.
And I just realized that I went on a rant about Roger Waters in the David Gilmour forum - oops!
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- I love Pink - 06-08-2006 02:35 PM
WOW!???
- ha_ha_charade_you_are - 06-08-2006 04:46 PM
The Thin Ice of Modern Life Wrote:I'm weary even of mushrooms, but only cause I've seen people have bad trips.Mushrooms aren't bad man. I would highly recommend at least trying them out. I would also say that make sure that if you ever do to make sure that you take them in a place that you are most comfortable. Your environment is the most important thing to consider before ever taking psychedelics. Being in a bad environment and being around people that you are not comfortable with are the cause of nearly every bad trip.
Mushrooms have had a very positive effect on my life so I just thought I'd share. If you don't ever want to try them though, that's cool. I respect that, but they can be a very powerful and positive tool in your life if you choose for them to be.
- mabewa - 06-08-2006 08:18 PM
Quote:I would also say that make sure that if you ever do to make sure that you take them in a place that you are most comfortable. Your environment is the most important thing to consider before ever taking psychedelics. Being in a bad environment and being around people that you are not comfortable with are the cause of nearly every bad trip.
This is so, so true.
I can't and won't recommend psychedelics, or any drug (including alcohol) to anyone, but it's very true that people bring bad trips on themselves by being in horribly wrong situations: school, public places, around nasty people. They totally intensify your perception of everything: positive things can be wonderful, but negative things can really mess your mind up. Psychedelics are totally misused by many people, who take them as just another way to get messed up, and thus do so in very inappropriate situations.
- Grguitarfreek100 - 06-10-2006 10:42 AM
floydian72 Wrote:name me one rock star that doesent have some drug issue at some point.syd barret
- floydian72 - 06-10-2006 11:02 AM
Grguitarfreek100 Wrote:ok stop naming me people. i realize it was a pointless comment i made. and nice post guitar :Dfloydian72 Wrote:name me one rock star that doesent have some drug issue at some point.syd barret
- nitro.vo - 07-12-2006 12:35 AM
Sadie Wrote:If Dave was doing coke at that time he would have gotten skinnier not fatter. Just saying. That's usually the case. I can't see him being a cokehead. But if it's true it's true. The premature heart thing makes me sad if it is true.+1
- kingwilliam - 07-20-2006 06:05 PM
I agree, cocaine does nothing positive for anyone. In my younger days I experimented with different drugs......and with cocaine, I always found myself desperately trying to get back to the high that I got on the first or second line...................then we would run out and I would feel like **** for 4 or 5 hours until I fell asleep; usually enduced by alcohol.....it is a stupid and pointless drug.
I prefer a glass of red wine and the occasional toke off some premium grass.....last summer I went on an overnight canoeing trip with some close friends and we took a heavy dose of LSD, which was amazing.........but I would never endorse drug use of any kind; it is illegal.
- High Mesa Floyd - 07-20-2006 11:14 PM
whong Wrote:Was just reading through a recent interview article with Dave talking about the usual solo album and Floyd subject matter, but at one point, he opened up on the subject of vices.Wow, I never knew Dave used cocain. (I never even believed Rick did either, but now I'm not so sure.) In any case, good for Dave for cleaning up and not letting it control his life. (And Rick too, if he had a similar experience.)
He went on to say that around the time of his divorce from Ginger, he got into the "usual rock star coke lifestyle". The first I've heard of this, and never thought too much about it. Always figured Dave to be more of a pothead, really. When the subject of cocaine comes up, most fans will naturally think of Rick.
I must say, Gilmour nails it on the head with one line, and this is a direct quote....."It's a drug that does nothing for anyone." True words, those! Actually it turns people into shells of people. It has the ability to deceive it's user, building up false confidence, "allowing" them to become more talkative and all the rest. "It left me with a prematurely aged heart", was another comment Gilmour made on the subject.
The stuff is just bad for you, period. Even in moderation - if there's really such a thing with cocaine. I used to do quite a lot of coke for a period of about two years, going back some years now. Lived with a coke dealer, conveniently enough, so I always had easy access to it, and it became a daily part of life. I'd lost my drivers license to DUI for a year during this time, and I took up biking it to work. I remember usually doing no less than six "bumps" before hopping on my 14 speed racing bike and giving it everything I had, hauling ass to work, some 15-18 miles away. With the wind to my back, I could make it in about half an hour, most days. Looking back on that, I'm probably incredibly lucky that my heart didn't literally explode in my chest cavity.
The end for me was cold turkey. I just got pissed. I think I also freaked out a number of people I associated myself with at the time, with some of them thinking I'd become a narc or something. In fact, I had a bit of fun with that...heh-heh-heh! After awhile, after seeing what it really brings out in people......jaws and teeth grinding in nervous tension, those beady and greedy little eyes just fixed on the mirror getting past around, and not giving two shits about anything or anyone.....that's what coke's really about, I'd had enough of it. With just one really dumb exception a couple years later, I never did any again. The payback is huge.....you get your health back, you don't have perpetually messed up sinuses, and your finances improve greatly.
Yeah....I was a bit surprised at Dave's remarks on the subject, but he's absolutely right. In fact everything he said was spot on, and it's a good read. It's at the Outside The Wall site for anyone interested.....
And a very inspirational story Whong, I'm glad you beat it as well! :)
I don't think ANY drug does anything for anyone, in my opinion.
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- MrTootles - 07-21-2006 10:53 AM
Not going to say cocaine - or any drug - is good, but it IS possible to do it moderately. I used once, MAYBE twice a month for about 6 months. Stopped because my friends weren't so lucky, and I couldn't be around that scene any more.
If somebody is scared of trying mushrooms, they shouldn't. You need to be completely comfortable with the idea or else that shred of doubt is going to wreak havoc during the trip. I used to eat them once in a while, but haven't since last summer because they really brought out my OCD. Well, they made me aware of my OCD, at least. So when I'm tripping, I start worrying and analyzing EVERYTHING.
That being said, mushrooms also gave me 5 minutes of complete bliss, letting me know what it's like to not worry about anything (and then I came down and thougth I was dying, but anyway...). So in no way do I regret that period of my life.
So yeah, cocaine isn't the devil, and mushrooms aren't angels.
And for the record, I think Maynard DID use psychadelics, but doesn't anymore. I remember an interview a long time ago where he said something like, "The point of psychadelics is experience that state of happiness once, then figure out how ot get back there while sober."
- chromeboomerang - 07-27-2006 12:51 AM
Ted Nugent, Angus Young, Frank Zappa.
Tony Iommi tells a story of staying up til 5 jamming with Cozy Powell. they were all coked out & next day they got up & played what they were doing, & Tony said ;I decided right then & there never to do it again.
- Marixpress - 07-28-2006 09:15 AM
I know it would never happen but I would love to see/read an interview with the guys (especially Gilmour) about their craziest drug stories. I know they have to have some good ones!
- NeonMosfet - 08-04-2006 07:26 PM
Maybe Cocaine hypes them up so much, they can stay awake for 48 hours at a stretch. But, I agree with most everyone else. David Gilmour, if anything, seems like he would have been into whiskey and such. But, that so mundane. He might have said Cocaine so he could be in recovery with a better class of addict.
- I love Pink - 08-04-2006 08:42 PM
NeonMosfet Wrote:Maybe Cocaine hypes them up so much, they can stay awake for 48 hours at a stretch. But, I agree with most everyone else. David Gilmour, if anything, seems like he would have been into whiskey and such. But, that so mundane. He might have said Cocaine so he could be in recovery with a better class of addict.Ya he wouldn't do crack he just wouldn't
- ComfortablyNumb212 - 08-05-2006 02:03 AM
Quite sad to see that he started using it.....good to see hes off of it though!
- Wings on the Pig - 08-05-2006 05:58 AM
It's good to see they have all recovered from their previous addictions and bad habits. Shows they have really grown up!!
- mmarconi - 08-21-2006 01:08 PM
I've read a few things here and there and All of the members admit to having a bit of a coke problem in the late 70's, but who didn't?...especially "ROCK STARS"....I mean I don't think Floyd had problems like say Zepplin or The Who, but I can remember in the late 70's Coke wasn't even thought of as a "hard" drug...there was even talk in the US of Decriminalzation around the time of Carter/Ford...Reagan put a stop to all that, and Crack really screwed up cocaine..as did freebasing...but there was a time when coke was totally recreational and not frowned on at all...2nd half of the 70's...am I dating myself, or does anyone else remember?....I DO REALIZE that we have found in the last 20 years that it's a major problem..but at the time no one knew any better and it was like caviar or something, a status thing..Champagne/cocaine....rich people did coke..poor people did heroin...yeah, stereotype but true for a while there.
- Grguitarfreek100 - 08-21-2006 08:17 PM
ya but keith drank alot, and inadvertantly lead to his death.
- pugsley0134 - 09-14-2006 06:38 PM
I dont know for sure about all rock and roll bands doing drugs, but; On VH1 behind the music, everyone I have seen the artists had drug problems at one time or another.
Pink Floyd coming to light in the late 60's and early 70's, I would have to say they did their share. I know Syd had a serious problem with LSD and they kicked him out of the band for that.
- Marixpress - 09-14-2006 07:31 PM
uh oh lol
Syd wasn't kicked out. It was his choice to leave. He just gradually stopped showing up...or so i've read. I wasn't there so who knows.
- ComfortablyNumb212 - 09-14-2006 07:50 PM
They just decided not to pick him up one day....but he still showed up at the shows on occasion so ive read....
- claguey - 10-18-2006 08:02 PM
Have any of you seen the Live at Pompeii video??
When the guys do their interviews it is clear they are all bombed out of their minds (Except Rick curiously who you don't really see) But Rog and Dave are out of their trees and quite clearly when Nick does One of these days, he is on another planet, hence why he drops the drumstick and also misses about half a dozen beats.
Rog is coming to Adelaide in Feb, waheeey ! can't wait. i saw him about 2 or 3 years ago in Manchester UK, i never thought I would see any of em again after I moved to Oz.
- Sir Frankie Crisp - 10-22-2006 09:18 AM
That bit in Live At Pompeii where Gilmour's talking about how people see them as a drug-oriented band, and Gilmour says at the end something like "But we don't do drugs. You can trust us." always makes me laugh, cos he looks like he's got a mindfull of it...
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- chromeboomerang - 10-28-2006 03:19 PM
Tony Iommi said he & Cozy Powell would jam til 4 am whacked on coke, then get up next day & listen to it. He said; I swore off the stuff forever after that.
Nugent started out same time as Garcia, Hendrix, & Morrison, he still is the whackmaster. Did a couple drugs myself as a kid, wasn't impressed. Well, except for alcohol that is.
- Robson - 10-29-2006 01:13 PM
i think Bob Klose was clean
all the others took something at least once
- Rogerwaterhasgonemad - 11-01-2006 08:06 PM
if you lived in the 60s-early 90's youve tried something part of human nature.
rick wright did alot of cocaine around the wall era he admits it. now days drugs just arent what they used to be, mean have you seen the prices of cocaine now days?
- chromeboomerang - 11-01-2006 10:14 PM
They were about more than just gettin high in late 60's & early 70's. & they didn't create a utopian society, though many were seeking it. Very different scene indeed.
- Rogerwaterhasgonemad - 11-01-2006 10:22 PM
lol i grew up in it i know what i mean.
- Marixpress - 11-06-2006 12:06 PM
Rogerwaterhasgonemad Wrote:now days drugs just arent what they used to be, mean have you seen the prices of cocaine now days?:laugh: best post in this thread hahaha
RE: - wot's uh the deal? - 01-10-2010 04:36 PM
(05-17-2006 05:06 AM)whong Wrote: Was just reading through a recent interview article with Dave talking about the usual solo album and Floyd subject matter, but at one point, he opened up on the subject of vices.
He went on to say that around the time of his divorce from Ginger, he got into the "usual rock star coke lifestyle". The first I've heard of this, and never thought too much about it. Always figured Dave to be more of a pothead, really. When the subject of cocaine comes up, most fans will naturally think of Rick.
I must say, Gilmour nails it on the head with one line, and this is a direct quote....."It's a drug that does nothing for anyone." True words, those! Actually it turns people into shells of people. It has the ability to deceive it's user, building up false confidence, "allowing" them to become more talkative and all the rest. "It left me with a prematurely aged heart", was another comment Gilmour made on the subject.
The stuff is just bad for you, period. Even in moderation - if there's really such a thing with cocaine. I used to do quite a lot of coke for a period of about two years, going back some years now. Lived with a coke dealer, conveniently enough, so I always had easy access to it, and it became a daily part of life. I'd lost my drivers license to DUI for a year during this time, and I took up biking it to work. I remember usually doing no less than six "bumps" before hopping on my 14 speed racing bike and giving it everything I had, hauling ass to work, some 15-18 miles away. With the wind to my back, I could make it in about half an hour, most days. Looking back on that, I'm probably incredibly lucky that my heart didn't literally explode in my chest cavity.
The end for me was cold turkey. I just got pissed. I think I also freaked out a number of people I associated myself with at the time, with some of them thinking I'd become a narc or something. In fact, I had a bit of fun with that...heh-heh-heh! After awhile, after seeing what it really brings out in people......jaws and teeth grinding in nervous tension, those beady and greedy little eyes just fixed on the mirror getting past around, and not giving two shits about anything or anyone.....that's what coke's really about, I'd had enough of it. With just one really dumb exception a couple years later, I never did any again. The payback is huge.....you get your health back, you don't have perpetually messed up sinuses, and your finances improve greatly.
Yeah....I was a bit surprised at Dave's remarks on the subject, but he's absolutely right. In fact everything he said was spot on, and it's a good read. It's at the Outside The Wall site for anyone interested.....
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I am sure the all snorted half a kilo of "Columbia 's best" off the back off hot nubile vixens. It was the 70's !!!!!!!
I grew up with reefer and trips and stayed away from Powders....hehe ehehehheheheh {insane laughter}
RE: - Lady Floydian - 01-10-2010 06:26 PM
(01-10-2010 04:36 PM)wot's uh the deal? Wrote: I am sure the all snorted half a kilo of "Columbia 's best" off the back off hot nubile vixens. It was the 70's !!!!!!!
He didn't have a cocaine problem in the 70s.....that was Rick. David's drug problem came about in the late 80s and early 90s when he was going through a painful divorce. He's said that he finally kicked it when he met his current wife in 1992.
RE: Gilmour and Cocaine - DrKole - 01-10-2010 07:50 PM
I know, Drugs Are Expensive, but I dont think he is doing drugs any more, think about it. He's like 70, if you were 70 would you be doing drugs?
RE: Gilmour and Cocaine - Lady Floydian - 01-10-2010 09:58 PM
He's 63. As for whether he's doing drugs right now.....I sincerely doubt it. I think it has less to do with his age and more to do with where he is a person right now.
RE: - Chamois - 02-09-2010 09:24 AM
(01-10-2010 06:26 PM)Electrophile Wrote:(01-10-2010 04:36 PM)wot's uh the deal? Wrote: I am sure the all snorted half a kilo of "Columbia 's best" off the back off hot nubile vixens. It was the 70's !!!!!!!
He didn't have a cocaine problem in the 70s.....that was Rick. David's drug problem came about in the late 80s and early 90s when he was going through a painful divorce. He's said that he finally kicked it when he met his current wife in 1992.
Gilmour used cocaine in the 70s. Whether it was a problem or not, is debatable. Rick's problems in the 70s related to cocaine and what might kindly be described as a very complicated love life.
RE: - quicksilver - 02-09-2010 03:05 PM
(02-09-2010 09:24 AM)Chamois Wrote:(01-10-2010 06:26 PM)Electrophile Wrote:(01-10-2010 04:36 PM)wot's uh the deal? Wrote: I am sure the all snorted half a kilo of "Columbia 's best" off the back off hot nubile vixens. It was the 70's !!!!!!!
He didn't have a cocaine problem in the 70s.....that was Rick. David's drug problem came about in the late 80s and early 90s when he was going through a painful divorce. He's said that he finally kicked it when he met his current wife in 1992.
Gilmour used cocaine in the 70s. Whether it was a problem or not, is debatable. Rick's problems in the 70s related to cocaine and what might kindly be described as a very complicated love life.
I've never read or heard any interview that leads me to believe that David Gilmour used cocain in the 70's. If you could site the source that would be great. You make it sound as if this is common knowledge. What is common knowledge is that he has admitted that alcohol was his drug of choice in the early days and that he did fall into a cocain problem in the late '80's- early 90's until he met Polly.
RE: Gilmour and Cocaine - bklynFLOYDgirl - 02-09-2010 03:47 PM
maybe he is smoking pot.. that is basically nothing these days. I can't see him doing coke at this age. Could give him a heart attack...
RE: - Lady Floydian - 02-09-2010 04:37 PM
(02-09-2010 09:24 AM)Chamois Wrote:(01-10-2010 06:26 PM)Electrophile Wrote:(01-10-2010 04:36 PM)wot's uh the deal? Wrote: I am sure the all snorted half a kilo of "Columbia 's best" off the back off hot nubile vixens. It was the 70's !!!!!!!
He didn't have a cocaine problem in the 70s.....that was Rick. David's drug problem came about in the late 80s and early 90s when he was going through a painful divorce. He's said that he finally kicked it when he met his current wife in 1992.
Gilmour used cocaine in the 70s. Whether it was a problem or not, is debatable. Rick's problems in the 70s related to cocaine and what might kindly be described as a very complicated love life.
I've read nothing that corroborates that. What I have read is an interview he did where he admitted to having a cocaine problem in the late 80s and early 90s.
So yeah.....a citation or two would be kind.
RE: - SimpleSimian68 - 02-25-2010 07:03 AM
(10-18-2006 08:02 PM)claguey Wrote: Have any of you seen the Live at Pompeii video??
When the guys do their interviews it is clear they are all bombed out of their minds (Except Rick curiously who you don't really see) But Rog and Dave are out of their trees and quite clearly when Nick does One of these days, he is on another planet, hence why he drops the drumstick and also misses about half a dozen beats.
Rog is coming to Adelaide in Feb, waheeey ! can't wait. i saw him about 2 or 3 years ago in Manchester UK, i never thought I would see any of em again after I moved to Oz.
Yeah, on Live at Pompeii there were a few moments where they obviously were feeling groovy...Like when the director asks David 'What's this film you've been working on?' and David keeps laughing."You ought to know, you're the director!" Or Roger playing with the smoke rings and not answering the question..."What do you mean, 'happy'?"
RE: - MauliP - 02-25-2010 10:44 AM
(05-17-2006 05:45 PM)Sadie Wrote: If Dave was doing coke at that time he would have gotten skinnier not fatter. Just saying. That's usually the case. I can't see him being a cokehead. But if it's true it's true. The premature heart thing makes me sad if it is true.
I was replying to another blog about this subject regarding Polly Sampson being referred to by D Gil as "the fun police" with "Cocaine fun? That's not what I heard" and the other blogger said "Where did you read that?" .
Do you think the other blogger was implying that cocaine is "harmless"
(the other blogger posted the story)?
RE: - MauliP - 03-03-2010 10:17 AM
(05-20-2006 11:17 PM)Rogerwaterhasgonemad Wrote: cocaine lead to tony montanas death and im sure gilmour did it watch his 80's show on you tube look at his eyes. we had problems and hes always been overwieght since about 78 and ive known some people on cocaine to still remain fat so yeah
The only thing I saw from 1978 was the video "There's No Way Out of Here" Gilmour didn't seem overweight in it.
Are there any other pictures or videos at that time?
RE: Gilmour and Cocaine - Lady Floydian - 03-03-2010 11:40 AM
You quoted a post that's nearly 4 years old?
RE: - MauliP - 03-04-2010 10:23 AM
(05-17-2006 07:32 PM)floydian72 Wrote: he said he quit when he met polly so all is well that ends well right?
It takes more than love to get off drugs, you need professional help.
RE: - Lady Floydian - 03-04-2010 10:52 AM
(03-04-2010 10:23 AM)MauliP Wrote:(05-17-2006 07:32 PM)floydian72 Wrote: he said he quit when he met polly so all is well that ends well right?
It takes more than love to get off drugs, you need professional help.
He says he kicked it rather quickly after he met her, and there's been not even a whiff of rumor that he spent any time in a rehab facility either as outpatient or inpatient.....so let's just take him at his word.
RE: - quicksilver - 03-05-2010 09:14 AM
(03-04-2010 10:52 AM)Electrophile Wrote:(03-04-2010 10:23 AM)MauliP Wrote:(05-17-2006 07:32 PM)floydian72 Wrote: he said he quit when he met polly so all is well that ends well right?
It takes more than love to get off drugs, you need professional help.
He says he kicked it rather quickly after he met her, and there's been not even a whiff of rumor that he spent any time in a rehab facility either as outpatient or inpatient.....so let's just take him at his word.
Agreed..........just take him at his word. There' s no reason not to believe him.
RE: Gilmour and Cocaine - kartinkent - 03-16-2010 10:22 PM
Of course I prefer a glass of red wine and the occasional toke off some premium grass.....last summer I went on an overnight canoeing trip with some close friends and we took a heavy dose of LSD, which was amazing.........but I would never endorse drug use of any kind; it is illegal. what you think...
RE: Gilmour and Cocaine - Lady Floydian - 03-17-2010 07:34 AM
What do I think? Spam.
RE: - cevor - 03-17-2010 10:34 AM
(03-04-2010 10:52 AM)Electrophile Wrote:(03-04-2010 10:23 AM)MauliP Wrote:(05-17-2006 07:32 PM)floydian72 Wrote: he said he quit when he met polly so all is well that ends well right?
It takes more than love to get off drugs, you need professional help.
He says he kicked it rather quickly after he met her, and there's been not even a whiff of rumor that he spent any time in a rehab facility either as outpatient or inpatient.....so let's just take him at his word.
I actually had a similar experience to David 25 years ago. Not everyone needs more than a great support system and some common sense.
RE: Gilmour and Cocaine - SeanM - 04-07-2010 08:25 PM
Yeah, Im agaisnt non-natural drugs. It it grows in the ground, then it's ok with me. Although if I ate poison ivy I don't think I'd be so ok.
It's a good thing he got off cocaine. Pretty bad stuff.
RE: - Jeff 2012 - 04-09-2010 04:29 PM
(03-17-2010 10:34 AM)cevor Wrote:A lot of it depends on what really motivates you , what makes you tick . David obviously wasn't at the point where Coke was the central facet of his life , there must have been things that he was much more passionate about than some little white powder . Kudos to him , 'cause that shit is nasty hard to get out of your life . I am going to assume that he got off it late in the 1990's or early in the new millennium because you tend to put on a bit of weight when you kick .(03-04-2010 10:52 AM)Electrophile Wrote:(03-04-2010 10:23 AM)MauliP Wrote:(05-17-2006 07:32 PM)floydian72 Wrote: he said he quit when he met polly so all is well that ends well right?
It takes more than love to get off drugs, you need professional help.
He says he kicked it rather quickly after he met her, and there's been not even a whiff of rumor that he spent any time in a rehab facility either as outpatient or inpatient.....so let's just take him at his word.
I actually had a similar experience to David 25 years ago. Not everyone needs more than a great support system and some common sense.
RE: - Lady Floydian - 04-10-2010 12:19 PM
(04-09-2010 04:29 PM)Jeff 2012 Wrote:(03-17-2010 10:34 AM)cevor Wrote:A lot of it depends on what really motivates you , what makes you tick . David obviously wasn't at the point where Coke was the central facet of his life , there must have been things that he was much more passionate about than some little white powder . Kudos to him , 'cause that crap is nasty hard to get out of your life . I am going to assume that he got off it late in the 1990's or early in the new millennium because you tend to put on a bit of weight when you kick .(03-04-2010 10:52 AM)Electrophile Wrote:(03-04-2010 10:23 AM)MauliP Wrote:(05-17-2006 07:32 PM)floydian72 Wrote: he said he quit when he met polly so all is well that ends well right?
It takes more than love to get off drugs, you need professional help.
He says he kicked it rather quickly after he met her, and there's been not even a whiff of rumor that he spent any time in a rehab facility either as outpatient or inpatient.....so let's just take him at his word.
I actually had a similar experience to David 25 years ago. Not everyone needs more than a great support system and some common sense.
No, it's already been said here that he got off coke when he met Polly, which was in the early 90s.
RE: - Rogerwaterhasgonemad - 04-14-2010 12:07 AM
(03-03-2010 10:17 AM)MauliP Wrote:(05-20-2006 11:17 PM)Rogerwaterhasgonemad Wrote: cocaine lead to tony montanas death and im sure gilmour did it watch his 80's show on you tube look at his eyes. we had problems and hes always been overwieght since about 78 and ive known some people on cocaine to still remain fat so yeah
The only thing I saw from 1978 was the video "There's No Way Out of Here" Gilmour didn't seem overweight in it.
Are there any other pictures or videos at that time?
ha im still around to be seeing my post 4 years later
RE: - Mademoiselle Nobz - 04-14-2010 12:12 AM
(04-14-2010 12:07 AM)Rogerwaterhasgonemad Wrote:(03-03-2010 10:17 AM)MauliP Wrote: [quote='Rogerwaterhasgonemad' pid='211814' dateline='1148195874']
cocaine lead to tony montanas death and im sure gilmour did it watch his 80's show on you tube look at his eyes. we had problems and hes always been overwieght since about 78 and ive known some people on cocaine to still remain fat so yeah
The only thing I saw from 1978 was the video "There's No Way Out of Here" Gilmour didn't seem overweight in it.
Are there any other pictures or videos at that time?
RE: Gilmour and Cocaine - Lady Floydian - 04-14-2010 07:35 AM
Is there a reason you're quoting random posts?
RE: Gilmour and Cocaine - Mademoiselle Nobz - 04-15-2010 01:00 AM
(04-14-2010 07:35 AM)Electrophile Wrote: Is there a reason you're quoting random posts?
RE: Gilmour and Cocaine - Kimbers Sheep - 04-16-2010 11:29 AM
It is, however annoying. If you have something to add to the quote then that is all great and wonderful, however, simply posting to post is not wonderful...so...please make sure you actually have something to say other than aloha
RE: Gilmour and Cocaine - Rogerwaterhasgonemad - 04-18-2010 08:11 PM
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(05-21-2006 07:17 AM)Rogerwaterhasgonemad Wrote:
cocaine lead to tony montanas death and im sure gilmour did it watch his 80's show on you tube look at his eyes. we had problems and hes always been overwieght since about 78 and ive known some people on cocaine to still remain fat so yeah
The only thing I saw from 1978 was the video "There's No Way Out of Here" Gilmour didn't seem overweight in it.
Are there any other pictures or videos at that time?
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RE: Gilmour and Cocaine
You quoted a post that's nearly 4 years old?
-i was meaning to qoute this, in a website that has 10 serious users is there a need to be such analytical.
RE: Gilmour and Cocaine - Mademoiselle Nobz - 04-27-2010 04:19 AM
(04-16-2010 11:29 AM)Kimbers Sheep Wrote: It is, however annoying. If you have something to add to the quote then that is all great and wonderful, however, simply posting to post is not wonderful...so...please make sure you actually have something to say other than aloha
If you think I'm joking you are mistaken. Responses such as the one I just edited are exactly what I am speaking of, once again, stop posting simply to post