(05-03-2011 02:39 PM)Lady Floydian Wrote: Joe, you are aware that the picture of "Osama" purported to be his dead body is in fact, a Photoshop right? The US government hasn't released any photos of the body yet, and they are still in the process of determining when they should.
Yes, I just learned that.
(05-03-2011 02:39 PM)Lady Floydian Wrote: There is nothing fishy about this in any way. You don't need to be freaked out about anything. So please remove the tinfoil hat, there's no conspiracy anywhere.
I will not eliminate the possibility of a conspiracy before I see solid evidence. I do not trust the American government. I do not trust any governments.
(05-03-2011 02:39 PM)Lady Floydian Wrote: They gave him a proper Muslim burial, only they dumped him in the ocean somewhere to keep his body and/or grave site from being a place of pilgrimage for other terrorists. That's just common sense. Sorry. The last thing we need is a bunch of terrorists descending on a hole in the ground, vowing revenge. They're doing that already, we don't need to give them a meeting place.
(05-03-2011 02:39 PM)Lady Floydian Wrote: You have no idea why the US did what they did, nor the intel they've slowly been gathering over the last three or four years, dating back to before Obama's election, so you shouldn't wax philosophic about something you don't know anything about.
I don't understand how knowing what the US has been doing has to do with taking joy in someone's death.
(05-03-2011 02:39 PM)Lady Floydian Wrote: There's a difference between taking joy in someone's death and realizing that some people aren't fit to breathe oxygen anymore for the threat their continued existence creates.
You're contradicting your own American policy. Isn't the USA against death trial? Besides, I agree that Ben Laden should have died. I just don't understand how people can celebrate death...except for the ones who were seeking revenge, and that's a special case.
(05-03-2011 02:39 PM)Lady Floydian Wrote: Life is not black and white, as much as you might think so. It's very naive to think that way. Life is shades of gray. Get used to it now, or face a sh!tload of disappointment when you get older.
I fail to see the relevance of this. What does this have to do with my objection upon taking joy in someone's death?
(05-03-2011 03:35 PM)wet dream Wrote: As far as Bin Laden goes, the deader the better.
I don't have any feelings for Ben Laden. I hate the guy, I hate the whole thing, I hate the way he thinks. I'm not even religious, and I do not think Islam is by any means, divine. That does not give me the right to kill him. And, even though we sometimes have to kill people so that life can go on peacefully, I don't think we should be by any means, enjoying these moments.
(05-03-2011 09:58 PM)only floyd Wrote: Let's all pray that one day all humanity will understand that life whatever our beliefs should be respected, appreciated, loved and above all to have the upmost gratitude for the time we have on this, and lets not forget, still wonderful world.
(05-04-2011 03:39 AM)Arno Sluismans Wrote: On "the deader the better": I think it's pretty shallow to think that Osama is better off dead, without thinking about any of the consequences this may have. As Cabbage Love said, this isn't particularly beneficial at all.
I completely agree. This is
a very bad scenario to begin with and it's inevitable. Now that Ben Laden is gone, I'm expecting problems among the Qaida, Islamists, in Pakistan and Afghanistan since he used to be what stuck them "together". I'm expecting some retaliation as a response to Ben Laden's death. I also expect the US to interfere...again. I expect The Middle East to be on fire for the next few months.
(05-04-2011 03:39 AM)Arno Sluismans Wrote: Not to mention that I actually wonder how much Bin Laden really had to do with terrorist attacks like 9/11.
This is what I think aswell! We don't know if it really was Ben Laden. The video tape has terrible quality, the guy does not act or look like Ben Laden. The guy is right handed, and according to the FBI, Ben Laden is left handed...the whole thing is fishy. I'm not making any judgements, I'm just saying that I question everything, especially the things media suggest.