(01-14-2011 02:51 PM)Joe Wrote:  Nick is more like a sheep. He really joined the winning side because he never had an option.

Guess you're right, in a way. But Nick did have an option, he could have joined with Roger. After all, Rog was his best friend. And he didn't know which side was the winning one at the time.

I'm pretty sure that Nick is Harry Waters Godfather

Yes he is.

Nick joined the winning side because it was the winning side. He definitely had an option. Some call him lame, but I personally think it was the normal thing to do. He was a key member, obviously, but the band's success wouldn't stand or fall without him at that point. He couldn't make himself a successful artist without joining the winning side.

It's the downside of not being a frontman and not composing songs. :|

Blackmailing Rick out the band was the "winning side?" Hate to break it to you Arno, but no one won there. I don't disagree that Rick was acting like a prat and making things difficult for everyone, but Roger basically threatened to take the master tapes of the album up to that point and leave, leaving all of them financially screwed. All of them had children, wives, homes, the whole nine yards......they needed that album. Rick was basically blackmailed out -- "either leave or you don't get paid." What kind of option is that for someone?

In my way of reasoning I'm considering saying "fuck you" to Roger would have been an option. Technically it was one. They've gone on without him and continued making music. Logically seen, it was not an option. That's why Nick didn't go for that option.

It's just a bit of a different wording for the same thing, I suppose.

The way I've seen it (and read it) was that Roger didn't give anyone a whole hell of a lot of choice in the matter, re: Rick's dismissal from the band. He had the master tapes, either they went along with what he wanted or he pulled them and went home. Seeing as how they had gotten screwed over by some investments and needed to finish the album early to get an advance from the label, they were backed up against the wall. Sure, they could have told Roger to go eff himself, but where would that have gotten them?

Nick did what was best for him and his family financially. I don't agree with the fact he and David basically sold Rick out, but it's like being told you have to choose between stabbing or hanging for your death -- neither option sounds all that pleasant.

Yep. That's pretty much what I'm saying, save the factual history.

By the way, I totally chuckled at the word filter my previous post apparently went through. That's rather silly.

BTW, speaking of how each album is a concept, on my iPod you have the option to shuffle your playlists either by song or by album. If you shuffle by album, it will play whole albums in order, but not in sequence. Meaning, you could hear all of The Dark Side of the Moon, and then after that, all of The Division Bell.

I think with the Floyd, this might be the best way to go. That way you get the albums in their entirety, just not in chronological order.

That's how the music player is on my phone. It's alphabetical, but I kind of wish it was by release date.