chromeboomerang Wrote:I got a kick out of how Reagan stepped backwards over into the Communist zone briefly before the wall came down. Interesting how Waters played at the Berlin wall & hates the man most responsible, ( in the US that is), for it's coming down. Reagan more than any Pres won the cold war. An uncomfortable piece of info for those on the left. they are fond of calling Republicans war mongers & such. Lyndon Johnson expanded the Viet Nam war to where it became a mess. Nixon caried the ball from there, but Lyndon did the serious ground work ahead of him, ( Lyndon was a Democrat for those youngsters out there).

Now, back to those oven mitts.

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Parties evolve though. Johnson was a very in a very sticky situation. He had to expand the war in Nam in order to pass his social bills (War on Poverty anyone?). The reason people jump on Nixon so much is because he promised to decrease the war, and instead he not only expanded troops, but he expanded them into another country. As for Roger's view on Reagan, I think that the world gives Gorbachev in general more credit for that historic event--especially seeing as it was Gorbachev who won the Nobel Peace Prize, not Reagan. The wall would have come down, Reagan or no Reagan. Roger has chosen to view Reagan as the man who tried to destroy all forms of social aid, including federal aid for public education and the man who helped the rich get richer.