Brilliant posts Sydney and rolanddoe. It's nice to see what intelligent discussion can happen when a thread circles back to it's actual topic without a bunch of one on one bickering and blathering. There will always be disagreements when it comes to another persons true feelings regarding a piece of art they've created. There's no way to get inside Roger's head and know for sure what he's saying, feeling or expressing in any particular piece, but the analysis put forth here is truly great reading material. Each person comes to a discussion with their own thoughts and opinions. No matter how far afield they may seem to another poster, it does not make them invalid and unless they're offensive they're usually left to play out. While it would be far easier to just delete or edit off-handed comments, baiting and self-indulgent flaming such as witnessed here, it's always better to have the members of the forum bring a topic back around. Nice job.