DrJohnnyFever Wrote:Pink Floyd
Creedence Clearwater Revival
Stevie Ray Vaughn
Joe Walsh (and anyone he was with)
Guns 'n' Roses
I must say, that's quite a list. Most of those groups (Pink Floyd, SRV, in particular) are amongst those that helped spark my love of music well there are others (Boston and CCR) who I enjoy very much and have a tremendous amount of respect for but for whatever reason have never got around to picking up an album, and others (Guns 'N' Roses, Queen) who I went through an intense period of listening to but have kind of waned for me.
Quote: I think rap doesn't even deserve to be rated. Most hip-hop for the same reasons. Lack of talent, original ideas, choice of topic/language used.
You are a quite bright fellow, so forgive me when I make a comment that may be percieved as rude but, and I think this may be what you meant when you said "true, I'm old school", I think on the topic of rap you may be a bit beyond your element (no disrespect meant). You must recall rap has it's own lineage and environment. True, the language, violence, and (more often than not) misogyny may seem trite, but in the inner city, largely made up of blacks at the time (and still for the most part now, although you see more whites there, as well as other minorites) of rap's conception in the late 60s (a hybrid of funk, beat poetry, and traditional tribal rythyms) that was the environment. For people of the "old school" who came from a white, middle-class background (I'm not referring to you, Johnny, please don't think I'm being presumptious and trying to peg you into a definition or act like I know you), it was horrifying and grotesque, but to the lower-middle class black youths, this was real. This was there life. In it's earliest days (the Sugarhill Gang, Fat Boys etc.), rap was swooped up by white buisnessman and assimiliated, but you also had Grandmaster Flash and 2 Live Crew who, well this may seem silly to anyone not a rap fan, approach urban life in a sort of modernized poetry, using a love of words and an acute understanding of how the English language evokes emotion to drive home socio-political points (well, Grandmaster Flash, at least) at a time when the people in these areas were still not being taken seriously. Public Enemy themselves completely revolutionized (no pun intended) the genre with Flavor Flav's goofy humor and Chuck D's intense, righteous, Clash-influenced analysis of the inner city black working class. Even, N.W.A., on their debut Straight Outta Compton
, were representing a real message. They weren't glorifying gangsta life (at least not when Ice Cube was in the group) and telling kids, "Go out! Shoot at people! It's fun!", they were informing suburbia that this was a hard life, this was really happening and outside of the inner city, no one cares or even knows about it. And to add insult to injury, for trying to bring light to this phenomena ("phenomena"; more like "way of life") they were castigated by the PMRC and politicians who would rather wipe these problems under the rug.
I'm sure this is no deep seated hatred on your part, just a simple dislike of the music style, which is fine, no sense in talking when we're all saying the same thing, I just think personally that even those who dislike rap should offer it a certain respect, the same way people who don't particularly like Led Zeppelin, Bob Dylan, and The Beatles (at least in my circle of friends) off them a certain respect.
Quote:without music, there would be silence.
In case you are interested, a few newer bands you may enjoy:
The Darkness--an anthemic, glammy power-rock group who's dedication to bringing back the riffs of Queen and AC/DC is unbelievable.
Tool--An artsy prog/metal hybrid heavily influenced by King Crimson, Yes, Led Zeppelin, Jethro Tull, Gentle Giant, Pink Floyd and Led Zeppelin, often with heavy philosophical lyrics and slow, churning song structures reminiscent of mid-70s PF, but just as able to turn out a romping Judas Priest-esque stomper like "Hooker With A Penis"
Coheed & Cambria--Well their earlier material is more on the emo/punk side of the spectrum, their vocalist is a dead ringer (well, with less emotion and power in his sway) to Geddy Lee and their last two albums (Good Apollo, My Eyes Are Burning!
and No World For Tomorrow
, respectively) saw them developing a full on, theatrical, operatic progressive rock style, and their five albums make up one of the most ambitious and original rock operas ever.
Between The Buried And Me--Starting out as an intense hardcore punk/thrash metal group, they expanded their horizons with each successive album, making it hard to label them in any way (although their singer/guitarist proclaims ("We're a metal band and that's never going to change") and their most recent album. Colours
, is probably the closest any artists so far this decade has come to truly emulating Dark Side Of The Moon
(either that or Tool's Lateralus
) and their release before that, The Anatomy Of
, saw them reinterpreting songs by their influences ranging from Queen's Bicycle Race
to Pantera's Cemetary Gates
In short, Dr. Johnny Thunder, in the short time that you've joined you've become one of my favorite posters!
Back on topic, I'm thinking of checking some ELO albums out from the library. Which should I get?