Friendly Greetings,

If there's enough interest this guy will show track by track how he created in Cubase a re-engineered version of Another Brick in the Wall Part II.

Leave a comment on YouTube to express interest. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KyMXvaRC0pE

See YouTube extract below:
This is a re-engineered version of Pink Floyd's track Another Brick in the Wall Part 2. The bass was recorded direct using a Line 6 Bass Pod XT and the guitar tracks were mostly through a Boss GT-10 with some external stomp boxes for heavy distortion. The solo was recorded clean with some compression and the tracks were mixed in cubase where basic reverb added. If anyone is interested in seeing how this track was made using cubase let me know as I'm considering making a video of how it was recorded and produced track by track.

The video was compiled and synced with the song using YouTube clips from documentary footage relating to 2001 space odyssey, atomic and hydrogen bomb explosions, building of the Berlin wall, international space station project, and the extinct excessive race from Easter Island.

Electric Eddy.

No... Guitars sounded to digital and over proccesed.
Playings a bit out of time and some of your bends dont reach the correct pitch.

Other than that good attempt.

pinkfloydfan1 Wrote:No... Guitars sounded to digital and over proccesed.
Playings a bit out of time and some of your bends dont reach the correct pitch.

Other than that good attempt.

Thanks for the feedback, you're the first to give me some constructive advice. Interesting that you picked up on the over digital sound, are you referring mainly to the solo or generally over all guitars and bass?

I'm not quite sure about your comment on the timing, are you detecting that its out of temo time or the precise note positioning in the original for the solo?

Yeah the bends sound a bit cringey to me too.

Appreciate your feedback and any advice to stop it sounding digital.

mainly the rythm sections just sound over processed.
But thats mainly the fact its a Gt 10. ive tried all the gt models all the way back to the Gt 3 and all ove them up until the gt 8 have an analog sound. Hence why i use the gt 8.

Not a sound i cant get out of it be it digital or analog. I can get a moer convincing Overdrive tone than i could with my Pete Cornish P1.

So its not necceseraily your patch.

Comment on timing is regarding the solo section, your fine in most places but then wen it stops and the sweep bend on the 13th fret of e comes in your slightly late and it just makes the solo section sound a bit sloppy.

As for the solo its not too shabby actaully could do with a bit more delay aka use the tape delay setting on 440ms with about 30 feedback and 50 volume and then have the delay frequencies on flat.

Other than that mix the vocals down ever so slightly and you have a good mix.

I tested the GT-10 against the POD XT Live and picked the GT-10 for usability. After getting into details of the GT-10 I found it difficuelt to get any decent sound out of it and at the time of recording I ended up out of frustration pulling out my stomp box and using the GT-10 send/return to a BOSS overdrive. It still sounded awful so I just pushed it back in the mix a bit and planned to get back to it and replace. The plan now is to mic up my Tube AMP DSL 201 using either a 57 or a SE 2200 and try out some of the valve tones etc. If I can't get it sounding like the desired tone I'll try a few things on the POD 2.

I also plan to redo the rhythm sections as at the time I recorded it I hadn't follow the rhythm patterns in the book and I couldn't get a decent flanging sound from the GT. Maybe I need to get an Electric Mistress, or mess around with two old Rexox tape reels which I picked up.

Re the delay, I thought the solo was recorded direct with compression and only some overdrive was added post recording. Was delay added in the original too? Would a basic Cubase delay plugin do the trick you described?

Tube amp with 57 should do it.
Pod XT is actually alot more dyamic than the Boss gt 10 but still with tweaking you could acheive the same results.

Re cuebase i use that at work along with pro tools.
I have a seperate delay so i dont use plugins but i would imagine that it should be easy enough.

As for the final solo there is reverb added but in all my 14 years of playing ive never been able to get it sounding right with reverb ive always used a ping pong delay and that seems to give it that ambience aslong as it is indeed mixed low.

pinkfloydfan1 Wrote:Tube amp with 57 should do it.
Pod XT is actually alot more dyamic than the Boss gt 10 but still with tweaking you could acheive the same results.

Re cuebase i use that at work along with pro tools.
I have a seperate delay so i dont use plugins but i would imagine that it should be easy enough.

As for the final solo there is reverb added but in all my 14 years of playing ive never been able to get it sounding right with reverb ive always used a ping pong delay and that seems to give it that ambience aslong as it is indeed mixed low.

I'm not having much success micing up the amp for the clean guitar sound for the rhythm track. The amp has only four settings for the clean tone, vol, high, mid and bass. I'm using a Les Paul and tried many settings across all pickups and tone / vol controls.

I know that a flanger was used however I would like to add this effect post recording so all I'm looking for is a good tone to start with.

If you had success getting this sound on an amp or gt would you mind directing me to the base amp/gt/guitat settings.

PS I know most of this has to do with DG himself and his custom pickups.

Patrick.

I've two old Revox P99's MKIII tape decks which I got from a studio.

Do you think I could use these for generating old style flanging for the backing tracks when I redo them?

Also would there be any benefit in outputting the entire next version to tape to get rid of some of the digital aspects?

No harm in trying but in my view i dont think it would make much diffrence.

As for clean tones try a strat with a little reverb no modulation using the middle pickup.

pinkfloydfan1 Wrote:No harm in trying but in my view i dont think it would make much diffrence.

As for clean tones try a strat with a little reverb no modulation using the middle pickup.

Thanks,

I'm looking a getting a strat this month.

When you say it won't make much difference are you saying recording to revox tape under normal circumstances is pointless or just for me based on what you've heard? I'm not expecting it to do anything for the first draft I was referring to a new version.

BTW I noticed some of your comments in other threads that you record you own covers of Pink Floyd. Can you post some links?