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RE: If Syd hadn't gone mad....
(06-16-2010 12:54 PM)Arno Sluismans Wrote:  
(06-16-2010 11:43 AM)silverpot Wrote:  No one is disputing the obvious fact that David didnt write anything for The Final Cut. Its the reason he didnt thats interesting. That reason is also a well known fact, this was the album Roger wanted to make, so he did. David argued against in the beginning but finally gave up and told Roger he could call if he needed a guitar player, and left the project. His music wasnt welcome on that album, so he made his own. It was definately not a question of neglect towards the band.

Could be true, but seems very strange to me. Why is it, then, that Roger was so furious about the fact that Gilmour wasn't contributing...?


To play the victim. Roger did it quite well before Live 8.

Basically from The Wall up to the point he left the group in December of 1985, he was putting himself out as the band. Not a member of the band, but the band. On the Treeful of Secrets disc series, there's a radio promo for a listening party for The Final Cut happening in Atlanta and the album was billed as being by "Roger Waters and Pink Floyd". This is before he left the group, mind you. He had his name billed BEFORE the band. Not only is that pretentious, it's obscene. So taking into consideration how he felt about his own involvement in the band, how he felt about David and Nick's involvement in the band.....you're surprised he feigned anger that David hadn't contributed anything to the making of The Final Cut? He was freezing everyone out. David could have showed up with a trunk full of demo tapes and Roger would have found reasons to use absolutely none of them. He kicked Rick out of the band by essentially blackmailing him, rumor was that he was going to axe Nick as well.....only a matter of time before he showed David the door and finally realized his dream of being Pink Floyd.

I don't discredit what he added to the band or the fact that he was an important part of it......but Roger's leaving was a simple case of addition by subtraction. Things got better just by sheer virtue of him being gone. The lyrics weren't ever going to be on par with what Roger had written, but the music was going to get better. And it did. Sure some of the lyrics on AMLOR are a little hokey, but the music is IMO, on par with the stuff they did in the early to mid 70s. Which in the end is what matters to me. The music gets me first, then the lyrics. If the music is powerful enough, I can forgive cheesy lyrics. I mean, "Breathe, breathe in the air. Don't be afraid to care"? Not exactly Nietzsche.

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If Syd hadn't gone mad.... - Sweetdaddy68 - 06-13-2010, 01:55 PM
RE: If Syd hadn't gone mad.... - Floydy - 06-14-2010, 05:27 AM
RE: If Syd hadn't gone mad.... - Pink Flow - 06-14-2010, 10:39 PM
RE: If Syd hadn't gone mad.... - silverpot - 06-15-2010, 08:38 AM
RE: If Syd hadn't gone mad.... - silverpot - 06-16-2010, 11:43 AM
RE: If Syd hadn't gone mad.... - Lady Floydian - 06-16-2010 03:32 PM
RE: If Syd hadn't gone mad.... - SuZenBe - 06-18-2010, 09:45 PM
RE: If Syd hadn't gone mad.... - cevor - 06-21-2010, 04:02 AM
RE: If Syd hadn't gone mad.... - silverpot - 06-19-2010, 03:42 PM
RE: If Syd hadn't gone mad.... - silverpot - 06-21-2010, 05:39 AM
RE: If Syd hadn't gone mad.... - Floydy - 06-22-2010, 09:54 AM
RE: If Syd hadn't gone mad.... - Idoownu - 06-26-2010, 11:37 AM
RE: If Syd hadn't gone mad.... - Floydium - 07-18-2010, 03:06 AM
RE: If Syd hadn't gone mad.... - Floydy - 07-18-2010, 03:56 AM
RE: If Syd hadn't gone mad.... - silverpot - 07-24-2010, 09:28 AM
RE: If Syd hadn't gone mad.... - The Pict - 07-24-2010, 04:28 PM
RE: If Syd hadn't gone mad.... - The Pict - 07-24-2010, 04:57 PM
RE: If Syd hadn't gone mad.... - The Pict - 07-24-2010, 06:34 PM
RE: If Syd hadn't gone mad.... - cevor - 07-25-2010, 02:40 AM
RE: If Syd hadn't gone mad.... - The Pict - 07-25-2010, 10:25 AM
RE: If Syd hadn't gone mad.... - Floydy - 07-25-2010, 01:14 AM
RE: If Syd hadn't gone mad.... - The Pict - 07-25-2010, 10:55 AM
RE: If Syd hadn't gone mad.... - The Pict - 07-25-2010, 11:28 AM
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RE: If Syd hadn't gone mad.... - The Pict - 07-25-2010, 12:07 PM
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