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spacement · 03-09-2005 11:51 AM

Ajirikowic Wrote:I hear from some people that the band "Tool" is like the "Pink Floyd Of Today"

Tool is a pretty amazing band. They definitely carry the spirit of the 70's prog bands without sounding or trying to sound like them. Their early albums were a bit on the metal side but the last two are some of the best modern prog around. Not only is it prog but it's prog without all the flashy solos. There's not a single guitar solo on any of their albums. They even had the balls to take King Crimson out as their opening act in 2001.

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AmazingPudding · 03-09-2005 06:05 PM

yeah true! and sort of on the same plain is "a perfect circle" they got some good things happenin.

Eroc · 03-10-2005 12:24 PM

Quote:Not only is it prog but it's prog without all the flashy solos. There's not a single guitar solo on any of their albums.

Why is that spoken of like that is a 'good thing'?

No offense to Tool or yourself, but I have to agree with artists like Steve Lukather who have pointed out that the mentality of that is a dangerous thing in the music community (or, I should be more specific, not neccesarily Tool, but at least the music community that generates what is deemed "commercial music") - the 'dumbing-down' of commercial music. It's sad, but realize that there is a whole generation of new young musicians who can ape any heavy riff from the latest nu-metal single (of which many eschew solos), but can't play or create a solo to save their life... let alone play (& understand) something classic & easy like Johnny B. Good.

I applaud the creation of different & unsual things... but that particular trend is disturbing to many musicians.
(Getting off my soapbox now... :music: )
Eroc

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**scarlet eagle** · 03-10-2005 04:35 PM

They definitely don't sound like Pink Floyd, but I can hear some Floyd influences in Modest Mouse.

Also, there are a couple of Keane songs that somewhat "Floydish".

dsotmoon · 03-10-2005 06:33 PM

Keane, mostly autumn and porcupine tree are some of my new favorites :music:

The_Madcap · 03-10-2005 07:12 PM

scarlet eagle Wrote:They definitely don't sound like Pink Floyd, but I can hear some Floyd influences in Modest Mouse.

Also, there are a couple of Keane songs that somewhat "Floydish".

Yeah, I agree with you. Modest Mouse has a touch of Floyd every once in awhile. I love them, check out their Good news & Moon and Antarctica Albums...every track is a winner.

spacement · 03-11-2005 01:11 PM

Eroc Wrote:
Quote:Not only is it prog but it's prog without all the flashy solos. There's not a single guitar solo on any of their albums.
Why is that spoken of like that is a 'good thing'?

No offense to Tool or yourself, but I have to agree with artists like Steve Lukather who have pointed out that the mentality of that is a dangerous thing in the music community (or, I should be more specific, not neccesarily Tool, but at least the music community that generates what is deemed "commercial music") - the 'dumbing-down' of commercial music. It's sad, but realize that there is a whole generation of new young musicians who can ape any heavy riff from the latest nu-metal single (of which many eschew solos), but can't play or create a solo to save their life... let alone play (& understand) something classic & easy like Johnny B. Good.

I applaud the creation of different & unsual things... but that particular trend is disturbing to many musicians.
(Getting off my soapbox now... :music: )
Eroc

No offense taken but I think it says alot about a band that can make in depth, serious music without the need for a solo. My biggest problem with the new breed of prog bands is that they are trying to sound like old Floyd, Yes and Genesis by using odd time signatures and flashy solos. They got the formula down but I feel what is missing from the music is the spirit. Instead of the true meaning of progressive, which is to move forward and progress, they are stuck in the past. The 70's prog bands weren't trying to sound like other bands they were pushing the envelope of rock and moving it in a new direction.

That's one reason why I consider Tool to be one of the best progressive bands out there, even though I am sure they would not label themselves progressive. Tool has tried to avoid the commercialization of their music by controlling almost every aspect of their record deal. Right from the get go they refused to sign to a major label because they didn't want to give up control over their music.

And I whole heartedly agree that there is a dumbing down of commercial music going on. I've been working in the music industry for the last 18 years and have witnessed it first hand. But it goes hand in hand with the dumbing down of our society, it makes better consumers of the sheep.

"What did you dream? It's alright we told you what to dream..."

Eroc · 03-11-2005 01:40 PM

Yes, I agree with you on many of your points about some of the progressive bands out there - and flash does not necessarily equal progressiveness.
I used to like Spock's Beard, but since their main songwriter Neil Morse left, they just don't 'do it' for me as much anymore... because now 'the songs' aren't there. And any amount of technical musical wizardry can't help unless the 'the song' is there...

Indeed, the sheep... down well-trodden corriders...
Well put!
Eroc

**W1P** · 03-11-2005 01:53 PM

Eroc, what do you think of Neil's "Testimony" album?

Mister_Aggie · 06-06-2005 05:54 AM

Mostly Autumn all the way

(yay seeing them again, friday :D)

someone also mentioned A Perfect Circle.....great band...but i dont think they're that influenced by PF...but i dunno, maybe i aint heard enough of them.

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