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Michael Smerconish | ROGER WATERS: THE PINKO IN FLOYD

FOR THE second time in my life, I'm writing a column about Pink Floyd. Specifically, about the man I've always considered to be the brains of the band: Roger Waters. The first time I wrote about him was 26 years ago when I was a high school senior at Central Bucks West in Doylestown and editor of the school paper, the Chatterbux.

Back then, I was one of the lucky few to see Pink Floyd perform "The Wall," live at the Nassau County Coliseum on Long Island, N.Y. My review earned me an invitation to the principal's office. I was encouraged to write a retraction on the grounds that I'd promoted a band whose lyrics the principal associated with drug use.

It was a moment straight out of "Another Brick in the Wall, Part 2," "We don't need no education" indeed. I told the principal to pound sand. Maybe even called it a matter of "free speech."

For three decades, the Floyd has never left my playlist.

In fact, I have done what I call "the cycle" for every Floyd and Roger Waters recording, meaning I bought it in all forms in which it was released: album, 8-track, cassette and CD. I once made a London taxi driver take me to the Battersea Power Station just so I could photograph the image that appears on the cover of my favorite album, "Animals." No one was more pleased when the band reunited to headline at Live 8. And in the never-ending debate among Floyd fans on David Gilmore vs. Rogers Waters, I've always sided with Waters.

My affinity for Waters has always been in spite of his politics. Chalk that up to spending too much time studying song lyrics back in the day when they printed such things. I thought rock stars had all the answers.

Fast-forward 25 years.

Last Wednesday, I sat in the front row for a Roger Waters performance at Madison Square Garden. (The same show came to the Tweeter Center in Camden Saturday night.) The crowd was diverse, but mostly like me: white middle-aged guys with receding hair and expanding waists.

It should have been a night to have a few beers and enjoy the soundtrack of my life. Instead, I sat there in my expensive seat, and heckled the guy whose music I know by heart.

Waters' politics are no longer just liberal, they're over the top.

I was expecting the line about "incurable tyrants and kings" when he sang "Fletcher Memorial Home," and I knew there'd be references to Margaret Thatcher and Ronald Reagan.

What I wasn't prepared for was a photo montage featuring Osama, Saddam and George W. Bush. Especially not two days removed from the anniversary of Sept. 11 in the city where the most death and destruction occurred.

I'm sick and tired of entertainment types arguing a moral equivalency between our president and the Butcher of Baghdad and the architect of 9/11.

It's not that I object to the criticism of the president or his policy. But Waters and others lose all credibility when they treat Bush and bin Laden the same way. And that was before Waters announced he was beginning the "controversial" part of the show.

I held my breath as he introduced "Leaving Beirut" with a long-winded story about his teens. Then came:

Are these the people we should bomb

Are we so sure they mean us harm

Is this our pleasure, punishment or crime

Is this a mountain that we really want to climb

The road is hard, hard and long

Put down that two by four

This man would never turn you from his door

Oh, George! Oh, George!

That Texas education must have f------ you up when you were very small.


This is Waters' ridiculous ode to some guy who gave him a lift and a meal when he was hitching in Beirut at 17. According to the logic of his lyrics, because he received this courtesy, we're supposed to overlook the murder of innocents at the hands of radical Islam, including the close to 3,000 who died almost five years to the day, and just blocks from where I was hearing him sing.

I couldn't take it any more. "Go visit Ground Zero!" I shouted from the front row. He heard me, and proceeded to avoid our corner of the stage except to oblige a hottie who wanted to take his picture with her cell phone.

Then the pig came out.

I refer to a giant inflatable pig, a hallmark of many Floyd shows, and the symbol of my aforementioned favorite album. Only this time, the pig was a billboard for Waters' twisted priorities. "Habeas Corpus Matters," it said, among other things. How appalling. I wondered how many in the New York audience had lost relatives or friends in the 9/11 attack and now were witness to his call for more rights for the murderers?

"Go visit Ground Zero," I yelled again.

Roger Waters still has free-speech rights. Bald, bespectacled and willing to shell out for a front-row seat, so do I.

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Ahhhh... now the voices are being heard.

Roger is making a d*mn fool of himself.
09-21-2006 12:49 PM
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haha people can see things so differently. after reading this article, i thought, "wow, this guy sounds like a douche." and then i read jumpy's reply (not making a connection to jumpy being a douche for the record) Santa
09-21-2006 02:25 PM
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I thought the guy was a douche, too. Funny, I figured the point of "Leaving Beirut" was that we should not judge an entire group of people for the actions of a few whackos, and that most of them are decent human beings. I, for one, did not interpret it as a defense of terrorism, as it seems this guy has. Groundless accusations, that's all he's got. If I were Roger and someone so willfully misinterpreted my song, I wouldn't favor him with a close-up either.

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09-21-2006 03:39 PM
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ive always been with Waters on most of the things he has said or done, but to lash out like that at a show IN NEW YORK im starting to doubt things

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09-21-2006 03:48 PM
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Smerconish is a right-wing radio nutcase who sucks at the teat of Bill O'Reilly & Sean Hannity.

He's another one, apparently, who has been ignoring Floyd's/Waters' lyrics & has just been "enjoying the music".

He's in the "shut up and sing" crowd....ignoring the fact that the message is PART of the art.

he also misinterpreted Leaving Beirut. I highly, highly doubt Waters' intentions with that song was to say that because this one family did something nice to him in the early-60's that we ignore everything else.

What it does do is give a micro-view of a family living in that area....we tend too often to think of places like Lebanon & Iraq & Iran as being generic, abstract places where the enemies live. In fact - these countries are made up of - wow - get this....ACTUAL PEOPLE! People with families, people who care.

If some Iraqi or Iranian happened to be stranded outside of my house - I wouldn't look at them & say...I hate Iraqis! I hate Iranians! Why? Because my government tells me I should?

No...I would treat them as fellow human beings - co-inhabitors of planet Earth - and would help them out - and it would probably be one of the most enlightening experiences of my life.

I think a big part of Waters' point is that the world is really made up of people....99% of whom are good people...yet - it's the 1% of the violent people - those with the power - governments who have no interest in truly seeking out an end to the never-ending cycle of violence....that completely **** it up for the other 99%.

When we bomb....WHO are we bombing? For every military target we're taking out...we're probably also taking out several families just like the one Waters sings about in his song.

And while some might argue that the ends justify the means....it doesn't mean it's not worthy of reflection & criticism.
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I think this writer is bitter because he's lost the idealism of his youth.

HE has changed, not Roger.

We are straight up murdering people in Iraq. When you question the behavior of the Iraqis, ask yourself what you would do if another country's military came in to your town/country and occupied you for 3 years.
09-21-2006 04:37 PM
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Did he really mispell Gilmour's name? What an outrage! I couldn't care less about the rest of it.
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I'm sorry.......

I must not have been paying attention to detail these past five years. What the **** did Iraq have to do with any of the events that unfolded on 9/11?
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Why the **** does this topic need to be exhausted any further?

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09-21-2006 05:29 PM
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