mabewa
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Quote:It's a bit like going to a gay bar and getting upset that guys are groping and kissing each other.
LOL! Thanks for a good laugh, and a point well-made.
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| 09-17-2006 03:52 AM |
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Grguitarfreek100
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pakistanifloyd Wrote:Actually, I do expect abnormal behaviour from all Bush freaks!
Hey You White House
Ha Ha Charade you Are
Its not talking about the white house there. Its talking about Mary Whitehouse you idiot, and im not a bushfreak, i dont even like bush, but hes not a war criminal. And even if you consider him one, he cannot be compared to what hitler has done.
Youre one of a kind. Just like everybody else.
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| 09-17-2006 12:13 PM |
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pakistanifloyd
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Grguitarfreek100 Wrote:Its not talking about the white house there. Its talking about Mary Whitehouse you idiot, and im not a bushfreak, i dont even like bush, but hes not a war criminal. And even if you consider him one, he cannot be compared to what hitler has done.
The time is gone the song is over,
Thought I'd something more to say
You're late man, things have calmed down here! anyways
you've misunderstood me again, I was quoting those lines in my reference to the White House Washington! Just like newspapers quotes in context to thier news.
Secondly, Hitler was a massive, huge war criminal while Bush is a small one! You know the tiny one... who likes tale of 'Pet Goat'! Isn't that cute!
Anyways, PEACE!
As salt resolved in the ocean
I was swallowed in God's sea,
Past faith, past unbelieving,
Past doubt, past certainty.
Suddenly in my bosom
A star shone clear and bright;
All the suns of heaven
Vanished in that star's light.
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| 09-17-2006 02:52 PM |
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Philintheflesh
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I`ve not been around for a week or so, and seemed to have missed some engaging (if heated) discussion.
Forgive me if I`ve "skim-read" a lot of people`s posts, but I`ve tried to take in a lot in a short time-period.
mabewa Wrote:As an American who was living abroad when 9/11 happen, I know that the victims of 9/11 were extensively mourned worldwide.
Yes, mabewa, they were extensively mourned. In fact the out-pouring of sympathy toward America at that time, was unprecedented. A brilliant spring-board, one would think, from which to tackle the "war on terror" the right way.
In response to Jumpy, I don`t think it`s lack of thought for the victims of 9/11 that shows itself in Roger Waters` songs....conversely, I would argue, that he is highlighting a certain betrayal of them. I`m sure Waters would argue that the way the Bush administration has managed, inexplicably, to piss away a lot of that goodwill over the last 5 years, is one of the great disservices to their memory.
Here`s a quote from rolanddoe on the 9/11 thread which I think rings true:-
Quote:I think it's sad that the legacy of that day has become the Bush administration's personal agendas and the attendant lies about WMDs and Bin Laden's links to Saddam Hussein. We're now set back to the Vietnam era and making the world safe for democracy.
The WTC victims deserved better than to be victimized again for that purpose.
Whatever your political view-point, we should cherish that freedom of speech allows anyone to get up on a stage and say what they think....it also allows an audience to express their own feelings by booing or cheering as they see fit.
Icy wind of night be gone...this is not your domain
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| 09-17-2006 03:45 PM |
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Sydney
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Philintheflesh Wrote:In response to Jumpy, I don`t think it`s lack of thought for the victims of 9/11 that shows itself in Roger Waters` songs....conversely, I would argue, that he is highlighting a certain betrayal of them.
It should be recalled that it was the betrayal of WWII casualties that caused the anger heard in The Final Cut. Interesting take Phil, thank you.
And if the cloud bursts, thunder in your ear
You shout and no one seems to hear
And if the band you're in starts playing different tunes
I'll see you on the dark side of the moon
Lois don't be alarmed-but I think I'm Jesus
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| 09-17-2006 05:03 PM |
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Jumpy
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Grguitarfreek100 Wrote:pakistanifloyd Wrote:Actually, I do expect abnormal behaviour from all Bush freaks!
Hey You White House
Ha Ha Charade you Are
Its not talking about the white house there. Its talking about Mary Whitehouse you idiot, and im not a bushfreak, i dont even like bush, but hes not a war criminal. And even if you consider him one, he cannot be compared to what hitler has done.
Wow... that's perfect. He didn't even know the difference between Mary Whitehouse and the White House, thereby totally misquoting Roger and not even understanding the lyrics well enough to hold his own in this argument. Yet, he has the nerve to insinuate that we don't get the lyrics.
The prosecution rests.
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| 09-17-2006 06:33 PM |
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mabewa
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I don't follow you guys. How does quoting "Hey hey whitehouse, ha ha charade you are" equal mistaking Whitehouse with White House"?
Pakistanifloyd and Jumpy, you don't have to be totally dismissive of each other. You're obviously both misreading what the other is saying.
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| 09-17-2006 07:07 PM |
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proudamerican
Piper at the Gates of Dawn
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With Roger and his political antics on tour it once again shows how hollyweird actors and the loony musicians seem to think the people really give a rats ass about their opinion.
It is unfortunate they just don't get. We are fortunate there still are a few countries in the world willing to uproot evil doers. Thank god we have an administration who is on the offensive and not sitting on their hands waiting for these islamo-facists to strike again.
What a great group of folks who behead innocent people.For any nutjobs who try to say bush is a war criminal or like hitler, you are truly a sick person.
Its unfortunate the middle east countries don't join the 21st century instead of continuing to live in the 12th...but i guess its easier to destroy than create....voting democrate will destroy the U.S..gee why does all our enemies hate Bush??...cause they would love a weak U.S.....SORRY ROGER , we ain't buying your propoganda from you and your druggie fans. :unclesam:
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| 09-17-2006 08:30 PM |
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HowLeTT
Piper at the Gates of Dawn
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Blatant stereotyping and poor grammar/spelling go a long way toward making your opinion seem completely irrelevant.
The reason Roger can express his views like this is because... well, he can! He's in the public eye, whereas you and I are restrained to posting on internet messageboards that discuss his ability to communicate ideas and heart-felt beliefs to a mass audience. Jealous? Me too.
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| 09-17-2006 10:47 PM |
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Skol
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proudamerican Wrote:With Roger and his political antics on tour it once again shows how hollyweird actors and the loony musicians seem to think the people really give a rats ass about their opinion.
It is unfortunate they just don't get. We are fortunate there still are a few countries in the world willing to uproot evil doers. Thank god we have an administration who is on the offensive and not sitting on their hands waiting for these islamo-facists to strike again.
What a great group of folks who behead innocent people.For any nutjobs who try to say bush is a war criminal or like hitler, you are truly a sick person.
Its unfortunate the middle east countries don't join the 21st century instead of continuing to live in the 12th...but i guess its easier to destroy than create....voting democrate will destroy the U.S..gee why does all our enemies hate Bush??...cause they would love a weak U.S.....SORRY ROGER , we ain't buying your propoganda from you and your druggie fans. :unclesam:
Wow, you're so close to racism it's untrue.
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| 09-18-2006 12:49 AM |
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