floydianyid Wrote:so why so judgemental?

Cause another a f*cking babys dead, and even if she feels guilty it doesnt make it ok for what she did.

The Final Cut Wrote:

floydianyid Wrote:so why so judgemental?

Cause another a f*cking babys dead, and even if she feels guilty it doesnt make it ok for what she did.

yeah i agree with you but she's gonna live the rest of her life in pure guilt in prison or not, it is shocking neglect though i have to say, but we need to know a little more, maybe there were other issues.

floydianyid Wrote:

The Final Cut Wrote:

floydianyid Wrote:so why so judgemental?

Cause another a f*cking babys dead, and even if she feels guilty it doesnt make it ok for what she did.

yeah i agree with you but she's gonna live the rest of her life in pure guilt in prison or not, it is shocking neglect though i have to say, but we need to know a little more, maybe there were other issues.

SO true, and while it's hard to say WHAT matters or to decide if it was a valid reason, the bottom line IS and will FOREVER remain a child died from a mistake. I stated my thoughts, I know it's taken me years to come around to that line of thinking, but that's where I am. I used to be VERY judgmental of the people who did it (and those who left pets in their cars), but am a lot less judgmental these days. I invite all of you who think she needs to be tortured to death or jailed or whatever - to pause and reflect. Some of the best people we know screw up once in a while, and they'll need to know that there's someone in the world who will forgive them. So, I'm not really asking anyone to forgive THIS LADY, but just do a reality check and make sure you have the capacity to a) forgive someone you know, and b) not judge someone you don't know.

I recall reading:

The Final Cut Wrote:People this stupid shouldnt be allowed to have babys...

Well, she doesn't now. I am pretty confident in saying that any parent would wish s/he didn't have a child instead of this happening.

Again, I am not going to shout anyone down, and appreciate no backlash - but this is one messed up deal that our curious attention can make us better people if we'll just be cool-headed and open-minded.

Cool?

You know A_F's right for once. :D I could take tolerance a step further and hope that this woman is not consumed by guilt for the rest of her life. Perhaps she'll become a great mom and raise some really exceptional human beings. Also, not that we really need many more mandated safety devices, but in an age where garage door openers are designed to not crush kids and pets perhaps this one is not so superfluous. How about an interior motion sensor that sets off an alarm when the temperature reaches a lethal level? (I assume it could be set to overlook trapped flies.) It could prevent tragedies like this and also bust those willing to risk the safety of the defenseless for "just a few minutes" as well. We do as much to discourage car theft.



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rolanddoe Wrote:You know A_F's right for once. :D I could take tolerance a step further and hope that this woman is not consumed by guilt for the rest of her life. Perhaps she'll become a great mom and raise some really exceptional human beings. Also, not that we really need many more mandated safety devices, but in an age where garage door openers are designed to not crush kids and pets perhaps this one is not so superfluous. How about an interior motion sensor that sets off an alarm when the temperature reaches a lethal level? (I assume it could be set to overlook trapped flies.) It could prevent tragedies like this and also bust those willing to risk the safety of the defenseless for "just a few minutes" as well. We do as much to discourage car theft.

Holy, HELL, you're a frickin' GENIUS! While we're all so distraught and pointing fingers at those who are pointing fingers, you come up with a stroke of GENIUS! From the mouths of babes...

Well, not saying you're a babe or anything...

Anyhow, it would be an easy-to-add motion detector module to add to any decent car alarm, since they use electrical current sensing for some things, microphones for glass-breakage sensing, various switch sensing for door and trunk (even hood) sensing, and motion detectors for OUTSIDE the vehicles on some (like those that said, "Stand back from the car, the car is ARMED!") - why not do it on all cars so they'll detect motion for pets and kids? Mandatory on all vehicles, put the motion and sound detector into the dome light assembly.

OK, so you wouldn't be able to make out in a car anymore... But it would be a great idea!

And to think... I was RIGHT for ONCE! :)

I don't think it's genius, artie. Perhaps it's environmental influence. I grew up in the same town as Ralph Nader. (I used to be proud of that.)

rolanddoe Wrote:I don't think it's genius, artie. Perhaps it's environmental influence. I grew up in the same town as Ralph Nader. (I used to be proud of that.)

Well, it's OK, RD. I suppose that if the auto makers are required to install air bags in cars because so many people refuse to wear seat belts (and drive up the cost of cars for everyone), adding a motion detector inside the car isn't an unreasonable thing to do. If some kids and smaller adults can die (one little girl had her head REMOVED by an airbag deployment) from airbags - and the air bags are still viewed as acceptable - then if the motion detector isn't PERFECT and a child dies, it should still be acceptable... right?

Have you been to the Ralph Nader Boutique and Haberdashery? Maybe get a haircut at NaderCuts? Ha, just kidding. I'd think that he'd be smart enough to have learned that for people to take his presentations seriously, he'd need to recognize that his own personal appearance would be part of the presentation. Poor fella... Never has figured it out. And those who DO take him at 100% seem to suffer many of the same "Appearance Detracting Disorders." I can't really watch him long enough to take him seriously, and (any more) he seems to only focus on a few things, ignoring the rest. I guess he's been that way all along. "Unsafe at any Speed" should be a hint of that - and sure, the Corvair was really unsafe - but ALL cars in the '60s were unsafe. It's almost like he has had an axe to grind, picked ONE THING that would tap into more people, then would get 20% of the population screaming for him.

He's not ALL bad, but he sure is hard for me to take seriously.

The Final Cut Wrote:I wasnt saying the 85% of Americans will forget their kids in cars i was just saying about 85% of Americans are unresponsible. Just look at all the 13 year olds having sex. All the 12 year olds and older doing drugs. And look at some of the parents forgeting their kids in cars. Look at all the gangs and shootings. Just look at our f*cking divorce rates. And your calling me gullible. Tell me please, how were any of my comments being gullible? hmmm...

You take the news as your view at humanity. THIS is why I hate the news!!! It gives misleading directions on EVERYTHING!!! The only thing it shows is bad news and the worst possible happening in the whole country... I mean come on!!! 146,000 towns...and only one accident? thats not 85%...thats well below 0.01%

Move to Australia, whatever, deal with the even worse people...

Oh wow... I got mad (coming from someone with spongebob as their avatar)

She needs mental help... NOW.. something is wrong up there...