Echoes73
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Philintheflesh Wrote:whong Wrote:I don't recall ever hearing of someone sparking up and smoking themselves into the mindset of "beating the crap out of someone".....
Yes. A valid point. A bit of pot-smoking doesn`t turn town centres into "no-go" areas, the way binge-drinking can.
exactly, a lot of illegal substances won't do that, even including things like acid...
I celebrated 420 a little early today :p :D
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| 04-02-2007 02:19 PM |
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Space Cadet
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Echoes73 Wrote:I celebrated 420 a little early today :p :D
Speak for yourself, man. I don't have a job, and am therefore coming up short when scaled next to my friends in terms of funds, which means I have to pinch every penny in order to thoroughly enjoy the festivities. This must change. Got to get my cash-moneys, son!
You know what I want to do to every prick who boycotts weed?
Make them take a blunt to the face.
And who's the fool who wears the crown?
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| 04-02-2007 02:46 PM |
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I Dig A Pigmy
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Quote:no, on account of i'm not a tool...
lol, classic!!!!!!!!!
Quote:You know what I want to do to every prick who boycotts weed?
I boycott b/c if i smoke i get 9 months in jail (drug tests on probation).
I actually get off probation officially April 17. def gonna have a toke or two, I wouldnt exactly thank the lord for weed and celebrate its existance.....
thats what high school was for, right? :D
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| 04-02-2007 03:06 PM |
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Stumpy Floyd
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Echoes73 Wrote:whats wrong with celebrating the use of a drug that is less dangerous than alcohol and tobacco combined and has generally been a huge influence in worldwide culture
i'm 100% pro smoking weed if that's your bag, man, but "celebrating" it via 420 is just retarded... it's similar to the whole drinking on st. patrick's day thing, with one important difference: you drink on st. patrick's day to celebrate st. patrick, you don't drink to celebrate drinking...
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| 04-02-2007 03:22 PM |
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Dragonrider
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The only reason why tobacco and alcohol are not illegal is because they are taxed.
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| 04-02-2007 03:32 PM |
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Stumpy Floyd
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Dragonrider Wrote:The only reason why tobacco and alcohol are not illegal is because they are taxed.
that's backwards logic, and thus doesn't make any freaking sense... they're taxed because they're legal, they're not legal because they're taxed... the government could very easily legalize weed and tax the crap out of it...
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| 04-02-2007 03:37 PM |
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Dragonrider
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| 04-02-2007 03:43 PM |
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Stumpy Floyd
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Dragonrider Wrote:You're a knob sometimes stumpy.
SOMEtimes?
Quote:The green stuff will never be legalised because it does ultimately cause harm.
bullsh*t... the reason it's illegal in the US is because the government, and much of the culture is still obsessed with the notion of "drugs are bad, m'kay"... it's already legal in parts of europe, and up here in the great white north it's on the brink of being decriminalized...
and on the subject of alcohol, if the only reason the government keeps it around is because they make so much money off of it then explain prohibition... they TRIED to get rid of it, but once you give someone a vice it's pretty much impossible to take it away...
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| 04-02-2007 03:55 PM |
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I Dig A Pigmy
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Quote:bullsh*t... the reason it's illegal in the US is because the government, and much of the culture is still obsessed with the notion of "drugs are bad, m'kay"...
true.
but everyonce in a while there can be a lot of negative consequences. want proof? come check out my roommate.
He smokes prolly 7 times a day, and im being conservative. He is a funkin mess and nvr has any money for the rent or other shet. But somehow he always has a sack on him. And when he doesnt, he freaks out.
I used to think just like you Stumpy. but seriously there are some people who cant handle it. Albeit very rare, but still.
prolly a good thing that it is illegal.
it does cause harm. just not as bad as other drugs.
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| 04-02-2007 05:04 PM |
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artie_fufkin
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These debates on "legalization" result in the most incredibly stupid comments.
Here are some US facts:
Tobacco is ridiculously expensive and difficult to grow and process - it WAS the most heavily subsidized crop (not sure if it still is - probably IS.)
MJ is ridiculously INexpensive and EASY to grow - can be done almost anywhere. So, the government would never see how much was being grown (since there'd be millions of houses with indoor plants).
Alcohol is surprisingly easy to make - hard to do if you want it to taste nice and not make people go blind.
Winner (from a law-maker's POV)? Alcohol and tobacco - government has some regulation on its manufacture. MJ is too easily grown ANYWHERE. It would be horribly irresponsible to allow it (see below).
Tobacco's effects from nicotine wear off quickly (in minutes), but the lingering physical effects can be life-long. All smoke makes for irreversible, cumulative damage.
MJ's effects wear off quickly, but the lingering effects are largely unknown (and ALWAYS skewed in reports to support an agenda). Long-term effects are believed to vary GREATLY by the user - making it something that can't be easily quantified. Again, smoke is irreversible and cumulative.
Alcohol's effects wear off after hours, but the body heals from much of the damage (unless it's acute or chronic alcoholism).
Winner (from health professionals)? Alcohol (since the user heals) or MJ (due to only occasional usage - unlike tobacco).
But here's the kicker...
When there's an accident at work, those involved have to get a urinalysis for alcohol and drugs. Alcohol's presence indicates the person was under the influence. THC's presence indicates the person was exposed in the past 30 days. How can anyone prove he was or wasn't high as a kite when he skewered his buddy with a forklift? Currently, it's not possible to ACCURATELY show this.
Soooo... Ain't gonna happen. Tobacco and alcohol are all we'll have for the forseeable future. MJ will remain America's dirty little secret - and illegal - for a long time to come.
A gainfully employed person would know what I mean by all of this. Anyone who wants to argue with me needs to argue the FACTS I have presented with other FACTS. I have stated only facts, as I best know them. I KNOW that the industrial and manufacturing sector will never allow MJ to be legalized - and the public isn't about to allow alcohol or tobacco to go away forever (though the tobacco industry seems to be gasping pretty hard).
Potheads: Put down your hookahs and give up the "pipedrem."
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| 04-02-2007 06:32 PM |
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