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rolanddoe Wrote:Artie remind Og old story many woman times back. Tribe have entrepreneur farmers grow grickle grain feed big bird beast. (Tribe not eat grickle grain - make big problem many big fans needed cave - arms get tired!) Big bird beast very fast tribe use ride not work so hard go places.

Special big shot grickle grain farmer named Mikdonuld. Mikdonuld use many evil plans make other farmers feel small tell what do. Mikdonuld innovate make many new things make Mikdonuld have more say.

Og show example; Mikdonuld cross woolybeast breed huge new big bird beasts carry caveman, little ones, woman, mother of woman :Oo:. Caveman go seashore sleep tent back beast stay warm. (Beast gas keep nasty beasts away - very nice not even need cave!) Little ones swim catch fish play bass. Caveman relax play woman hear woman mother roll eyes. But huge big bird beast eat much much grickle grain!

Mikdonuld need grow much much grickle grain now - make other farmers know new way. Everybody happy. Right? Mikdonuld have special friends make very thick uppity bean grind tea make farmers work hard. Bright light close eye farmers still work. Farmers make much grain soon have more say hunters. Farmers give hunters uppity tea offer more say hunters do work. Farmers count nice times!

Og tribe economy boom! Special uppity farmer group use much grain, feed huge beasts, build new caves grain land. Sell new built caves gatherers. Then take beast, live beach. Gatherers not so happy time. Hunters have weapons set new say limits. Mikdonuld very happy now. Whole tribe need grain, commute. Tribe need much more grain than tribe grain land make.

Mikdonuld come Og cave many special friends many hunters. Hunters very uppity Mokites notice. Mikdonuld talk Og tell me him have special winkwink say. Want make gatherers drink bean grind tea work hard not smoke special bamboo not drink moss ferment. Want hunters and Mokites fight take grass land neighbor tribes. Og laugh. Og offer Mikdonuld pipe very special bamboo. Mikdonuld now angry very uppity. Mokites notice. Laugh too. Og head butt Mikdonuld and laugh. Og not feel pain. Mikdonuld twitch floor cry little cavebaby. Mokites laugh. :blues: Hunters remember place. Special friends disappear. Mokites share many pipes. Tribe healed.

Og put Mikdonuld back fastest big bird beast point border slap ass. Og tell farmers stay coastline fish not come back. Og take grain lands establish autonomous collective! Gatherers have very happy time now grow tribe needs much nice wild food much moss much much special bamboo! :p Hunters learn new jobs grow beasts only hunt wildlife management. ???

Then Og tribe lands very happy very bountiful. But soon Og tribe threatened. Mikdonuld return neighboring tribes great army farmer chieftains. Og very smart, say parley chieftains ignore Mikdonuld. Chieftains like more say Mikdonuld. Chieftains come Og cave. Mikdonuld stay camp.

Bamboo only grow Og tribe lands. Moss only grow Og tribe lands. Og pass bottle. Og pass pipe Og explain chieftains Og tribe fight right party. Chieftains get Og. Many pipes passed. Many kegs ferment opened. Og tribe pay great tribute weary army camp many bales bamboo many kegs ferment. Great celebration feast! Many new friends!

Mikdonuld stay camp pouting cave baby. Drink much much much bean grind tea get very uppity. Throw tantrum cargo beast paddock confuse gentle mammoths. Beasts try avoid trampling great farmer but Mikdonuld too uppity and zig when should zag. :;): Very sad part good time. :sleepy:

Now local economy established. Tribes work very hard have good life. Og tribe provide exclusive herbs spices crops seafood recreational diversions. Great neighbor farmlands grow staple foodstuffs bird beast food raise best woolybeast steaks ever!

No special winkwink say! Tribe work hard fight right party!

Og and tribes wish Floydian friends very happy and safe 4/20!!!! :blues:
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rolanddoe Wrote:Little ones swim catch fish play bass.
...And no-one better to teach them too....for Og`s bass-playing prowess is indeed legendary. :;):

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04-04-2007 09:48 AM
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Echoes73 Wrote:don't you know the marijuana stamp act and the story of Samuel L. Cauldwell?
you'd be surprised at the amount of things i don't know...
04-04-2007 04:55 PM
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Stumpy Floyd Wrote:
Echoes73 Wrote:don't you know the marijuana stamp act and the story of Samuel L. Cauldwell?
you'd be surprised at the amount of things i don't know...
Seems a lot of us don't know a whole lot. No idea about Samuel Cauldwell. Search engines, Wiki search... Nothing I could find. But the stamp act is here:

http://www.druglibrary.org/schaffer/Hist...aryvus.htm
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1937_Marihuana_Tax_Act




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rolanddoe Wrote:Artie remind Og old story many woman times back. ...
Funny! But, uhh, I guess I must have jogged Ogg's memory by either posting a lengthy post - or I was being "uppity." Maybe both - and then some. I'm OK with people reading my posts and judging me as such; it's sort of funny, really.

Anyway, RD, it's great to see you posting again. But I assure you that I'm not being uppity, you Birkenstock wearing, peace-sign-flashing, dirty long-haired, tie-dyed, hemp shorts, John Lennon emulating, free-loving, just-for-the-moment-living, Grateful Dead listening, incense and candle store visiting, tambourine playing, aimless vagabond hippie! (I AM TOTALLY KIDDING, but just making light of stereotyping people in online forums).

How's that for uppity? :)
04-04-2007 06:46 PM
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artie_fufkin Wrote:
Stumpy Floyd Wrote:
Echoes73 Wrote:don't you know the marijuana stamp act and the story of Samuel L. Cauldwell?
you'd be surprised at the amount of things i don't know...
Seems a lot of us don't know a whole lot. No idea about Samuel Cauldwell. Search engines, Wiki search... Nothing I could find. But the stamp act is here:

http://www.druglibrary.org/schaffer/Hist...aryvus.htm
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1937_Marihuana_Tax_Act
Sorry I spelled it wrong, Sam can be found here http://www.norml.org/index.cfm?Group_ID=6684
04-05-2007 11:42 AM
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artie_fufkin Wrote:
rolanddoe Wrote:Artie remind Og old story many woman times back. ...
Funny! But, uhh, I guess I must have jogged Ogg's memory by either posting a lengthy post - or I was being "uppity." Maybe both - and then some. I'm OK with people reading my posts and judging me as such; it's sort of funny, really.

Anyway, RD, it's great to see you posting again. But I assure you that I'm not being uppity, you Birkenstock wearing, peace-sign-flashing, dirty long-haired, tie-dyed, hemp shorts, John Lennon emulating, free-loving, just-for-the-moment-living, Grateful Dead listening, incense and candle store visiting, tambourine playing, aimless vagabond hippie! (I AM TOTALLY KIDDING, but just making light of stereotyping people in online forums).

How's that for uppity? :)
Og not say Artie uppity. Og not come close say Artie uppity. Make Og sad. Og think maybe Artie read Og post, fill own blanks...hmmm?? Og bring Artie nice other tea help relax?

By way Og not spelled Ogg. Og only spell Og Ogg Floydian server require third letter. Please Floydians ignore server not spell Og Ogg. Second g redundant!

Why Artie respond rolanddoe? Also how describe rolanddoe so good? Artie meet rolanddoe wayback? Now rolanddoe mostly seen wear work clothes grumble much flip other workers off. Drink bean grind tea resurrect rolanddoe moss ferment problem caused special bamboo prohibition. rolanddoe not smoke bamboo not eat poppyseed muffin either! (rolanddoe favorite muffin by way!) Not risk get paper cut get sent emergency room get terminated.

Og not understand. Why Floydian employers kill good workers bad test? :(




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04-05-2007 05:36 PM
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rolanddoe Wrote:
artie_fufkin Wrote:How's that for uppity? :)
Og not say Artie uppity.
Og, you seemed to not notice I was kidding. Honestly, I don't understand half of what you posted - but it seemed you were saying something that was so allegorical that it could be interpreted SO MANY ways that I just wanted to play along from that angle.

Here's the deal: When anyone starts talking about legalizing MJ, they (all too often) seem to come across as wackos. So, instead of having good public discourse about the topic, they drive away those who would like to present and compare salient ideas. To those of us who would simply like to see a good debate, we see the pothead arguing with the Bible-thumper. Sheesh... We'll never see anything presented with wit and wisdom. And THAT is why I hate the "legalization" discussions - they go nowhere. They're as ridiculous (and fruitless) as the UFO geek / conspiracy theorist debating alien invasions with some USAF and CIA guys - NO sane person on the sidelines would take EITHER as a credible representative of either stance.

So, MJ is not legal; you shouldn't do it for health AND for legal reasons; and it's not about to become legal. Like it or not, that's the reality. There's a fairly healthy underground, and if you're being discreet and reasonable, odds are good that you won't have a lot of legal problems. If you work for an employer who gives urinalyses, you need to abide by the rules: Work there without THC in your system, or work elsewhere.

Ever heard of 4/21? Where employers who know about 4/20 automatically beef-up and give urinalyses to their employees? Do as you wish - I can't stop you. But I see an obligation to at least make sure that all facts are weighed. And if someone gets canned for a positive THC result - I better not hear any whining about how the system is unfair, etc... The rules and laws are THERE; they're FAIR; and just because some won't agree with them, NOONE has the right to ignore them. Capisce?
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I've never worked for an employer who did either routine or random testing after the initial hire. In my experience you are only likely to be required to submit to a test as prerequisite to being hired.

After that there are two scenarios which could result in further testing.

If you suffer an on the job injury you can be tested to determine whether intoxication was a factor in the accident. This is done primarily for insurance company purposes. Obviously this means that if you had a couple of tokes two weeks previously your employer's carrier can weasel out of their obligation. (Another reason to nuke Hartford and rid our country of this pernicious leech industry.) As a result you can also end up either unemployed or facing mandatory testing in the future.

The other way you could face mandatory testing is by submitting to it voluntarily. If your employer finds that your on the job performance has become consistently substandard and still wishes to retain your services you might be offered the opportunity to benefit from a substance abuse abatement program which will require mandatory testing in order to determine compliance.

This is the reality where I have worked. In addition most employers could care less what your private lifestyle is so long as you show up regularly for work and do your job well.

Employers like you are describing, artie, (the 4/21 scenario) who are actively interested in controlling the private behavior of their employees, are probably likely to share the consequences their own pervasive selectiveness. They will have higher turnover and thusly less continuity. They may be forced to settle for less talented personnel capable of a lower level of efficiency simply because of their insistence upon imposing political conformity beyond the workplace.

Justice is served. The only reasonable condition to employment is job performance. Intelligent employers and workers understand this.

Wink wink....




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04-07-2007 11:31 AM
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Yeah, I have worked for employers who did the initial testing upon employment and the testing after an accident as you described. Also, they recommended departments perform testing prior to promotion, and testing upon leaving the company (basically, when there was a change of employment status). They always said they COULD do a random test, but it seemed to never really happen.

Where I work now, we DO get random tests. Shoot, even the CEO got picked! It's TRULY random. And because of that, I am fine with it. Especially when I know the CEO did the same thing we all do, and grimaced and went to the clinic to do it.

Now, SOME employers I've heard about seem to WANT to check that kind of thing. I think that's an odd issue to obsess over, but... oh, well. The rules are there, and if you don't like them, you can get a nice job working at any number of employers that don't test at all (or are a lot less overly diligant). Having worked for several types, I, for one, prefer working for companies that encourage staying clean (and keeping a random-pick plan in place is effective) - but would rather avoid the companies that like to "profile" - it was amazing to learn of an arrogant young exec (years ago) who got axed for cocaine. So, it CAN cut both ways.
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