BillySherwoodHQ Wrote:

whong Wrote:

mabewa Wrote:One of the things I always found fascinating about Yes's lineup changes was that it wasn't just a case of members gradually being replaced (the usual situation with member changes), but rather with members joining, leaving, and coming back again. Because of that, you get all these different combinations of musicians on their different albums. I mean, for example, the 90125 band had Tony Kaye, their original keyboardist, with Alan White, their long-term drummer, but Kaye and White had never played together before.

Here are a list of Yes musicians who left AND came back at least once during the band's history:

Jon Anderson
Steve Howe
Rick Wakeman
Tony Kaye
Bill Bruford

In their long long history, they've had, at my count:

5 keyboardists
3 guitarists
2 drummers
2 vocalists
1 bassist (unless you count AWBH, in which case they had 2 bassists)

With all of those member changes, you'd expect them to have very little continuity in terms of sound, but actually, with all of their experimentation, you can put on a Yes album from pretty much any period of their history, and it instantly sounds like Yes. To me, this is because the member changes were gradual, and members returned as well as left, so they were able to maintain their basic sound.

Cool post, mabewa....and you're 100% right in your accessment and count! Nice job!

Almost... you forgot me lol... that makes 4 guitar players, I served from 1996-2000. I enjoyed playing all the Rabin era lead solos that Steve didn't want to play, Owner/Cinima/Hearts/Rhythm Of Love etc... The House Of YES DVD tells the tale

I have the album but not the DVD. Is it true that Steve disliked "Cinema" so much that he refused to be on-stage during it's performance?

Dyolf Wrote:

BillySherwoodHQ Wrote:

whong Wrote:

mabewa Wrote:One of the things I always found fascinating about Yes's lineup changes was that it wasn't just a case of members gradually being replaced (the usual situation with member changes), but rather with members joining, leaving, and coming back again. Because of that, you get all these different combinations of musicians on their different albums. I mean, for example, the 90125 band had Tony Kaye, their original keyboardist, with Alan White, their long-term drummer, but Kaye and White had never played together before.

Here are a list of Yes musicians who left AND came back at least once during the band's history:

Jon Anderson
Steve Howe
Rick Wakeman
Tony Kaye
Bill Bruford

In their long long history, they've had, at my count:

5 keyboardists
3 guitarists
2 drummers
2 vocalists
1 bassist (unless you count AWBH, in which case they had 2 bassists)

With all of those member changes, you'd expect them to have very little continuity in terms of sound, but actually, with all of their experimentation, you can put on a Yes album from pretty much any period of their history, and it instantly sounds like Yes. To me, this is because the member changes were gradual, and members returned as well as left, so they were able to maintain their basic sound.

Cool post, mabewa....and you're 100% right in your accessment and count! Nice job!

Almost... you forgot me lol... that makes 4 guitar players, I served from 1996-2000. I enjoyed playing all the Rabin era lead solos that Steve didn't want to play, Owner/Cinima/Hearts/Rhythm Of Love etc... The House Of YES DVD tells the tale

I have the album but not the DVD. Is it true that Steve disliked "Cinema" so much that he refused to be on-stage during it's performance?

Silly though it may be, YES. For a long while he would stand arms folded in his guitar tech zone off stage glaring at us as we played it. I tried like hell to include him, reasoning that his steel guitar would sound great playing the melody but the obviously his Rabin hate was too much to get over at the time.

YES politics are thick, I was caught often in the middle and did my best to get on with the job at hand, playing the music.

BillySherwoodHQ Wrote:

Dyolf Wrote:

BillySherwoodHQ Wrote:

whong Wrote:

mabewa Wrote:One of the things I always found fascinating about Yes's lineup changes was that it wasn't just a case of members gradually being replaced (the usual situation with member changes), but rather with members joining, leaving, and coming back again. Because of that, you get all these different combinations of musicians on their different albums. I mean, for example, the 90125 band had Tony Kaye, their original keyboardist, with Alan White, their long-term drummer, but Kaye and White had never played together before.

Here are a list of Yes musicians who left AND came back at least once during the band's history:

Jon Anderson
Steve Howe
Rick Wakeman
Tony Kaye
Bill Bruford

In their long long history, they've had, at my count:

5 keyboardists
3 guitarists
2 drummers
2 vocalists
1 bassist (unless you count AWBH, in which case they had 2 bassists)

With all of those member changes, you'd expect them to have very little continuity in terms of sound, but actually, with all of their experimentation, you can put on a Yes album from pretty much any period of their history, and it instantly sounds like Yes. To me, this is because the member changes were gradual, and members returned as well as left, so they were able to maintain their basic sound.

Cool post, mabewa....and you're 100% right in your accessment and count! Nice job!

Almost... you forgot me lol... that makes 4 guitar players, I served from 1996-2000. I enjoyed playing all the Rabin era lead solos that Steve didn't want to play, Owner/Cinima/Hearts/Rhythm Of Love etc... The House Of YES DVD tells the tale

I have the album but not the DVD. Is it true that Steve disliked "Cinema" so much that he refused to be on-stage during it's performance?

Silly though it may be, YES. For a long while he would stand arms folded in his guitar tech zone off stage glaring at us as we played it. I tried like hell to include him, reasoning that his steel guitar would sound great playing the melody but the obviously his Rabin hate was too much to get over at the time.

YES politics are thick, I was caught often in the middle and did my best to get on with the job at hand, playing the music.

Ah well, you can't please everybody I suppose. Igor Khoroschev seemed to nail Awaken pretty well on that album too if I remember correctly, better than Rick's performance on the Keys to Ascension album.

Dyolf Wrote:

BillySherwoodHQ Wrote:

Dyolf Wrote:

BillySherwoodHQ Wrote:

whong Wrote:

mabewa Wrote:One of the things I always found fascinating about Yes's lineup changes was that it wasn't just a case of members gradually being replaced (the usual situation with member changes), but rather with members joining, leaving, and coming back again. Because of that, you get all these different combinations of musicians on their different albums. I mean, for example, the 90125 band had Tony Kaye, their original keyboardist, with Alan White, their long-term drummer, but Kaye and White had never played together before.

Here are a list of Yes musicians who left AND came back at least once during the band's history:

Jon Anderson
Steve Howe
Rick Wakeman
Tony Kaye
Bill Bruford

In their long long history, they've had, at my count:

5 keyboardists
3 guitarists
2 drummers
2 vocalists
1 bassist (unless you count AWBH, in which case they had 2 bassists)

With all of those member changes, you'd expect them to have very little continuity in terms of sound, but actually, with all of their experimentation, you can put on a Yes album from pretty much any period of their history, and it instantly sounds like Yes. To me, this is because the member changes were gradual, and members returned as well as left, so they were able to maintain their basic sound.

Cool post, mabewa....and you're 100% right in your accessment and count! Nice job!

Almost... you forgot me lol... that makes 4 guitar players, I served from 1996-2000. I enjoyed playing all the Rabin era lead solos that Steve didn't want to play, Owner/Cinima/Hearts/Rhythm Of Love etc... The House Of YES DVD tells the tale

I have the album but not the DVD. Is it true that Steve disliked "Cinema" so much that he refused to be on-stage during it's performance?

Silly though it may be, YES. For a long while he would stand arms folded in his guitar tech zone off stage glaring at us as we played it. I tried like hell to include him, reasoning that his steel guitar would sound great playing the melody but the obviously his Rabin hate was too much to get over at the time.

YES politics are thick, I was caught often in the middle and did my best to get on with the job at hand, playing the music.

Ah well, you can't please everybody I suppose. Igor Khoroschev seemed to nail Awaken pretty well on that album too if I remember correctly, better than Rick's performance on the Keys to Ascension album.

Agreed, Igor is an amazing keyboard player.

Hey Billy, if you're still about... What's all that nonsense at the end of "The Solution" about?