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I think it's because they did The White Album, which has been determined as the official album of RAWK.

Officially. By internet nerds. And, my dear brothers, if internet nerds are wrong, I truly do not want to know what right is!

Except, everyone really knows that the greatest album of all time is the B-52's first album, aptly called "The B-52's".




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You know what makes the Beatles so great? It's a lot of things. Sure they technically weren't the four most talented musicians, but together, as a cohesive unit, they were one of the best goddamn bands there was/will be. Backed with the songwriting team of Lennon and McCartney, the guitar of George Harrison, and the drumming of Ringo Starr, they grabbed hold of the American fanbase, and didn't let go till 1970, their demise.

See if you look on the surface, or just at the Beatles' number one hits, you're not even getting half the story of why the Beatles were great. Their number ones don't even scrape the surface of their legacy. What makes the Beatles so great was how they worked as a cohesive unit, and how they all completed each other so well to the point where as a cohesive unit, they were unstoppable.

During the beginning, Lennon and McCartney wrote simple rock n roll songs that could be considered pop-ish, and for this they often get the stereotype of being a 'boy band' which isn't true at all. That's what was popular at the time. They took what was popular and added their own sound to it. They created their own feel, which would be continuously improved on throughout the years. Even the jump from their debut Please Please Me to their second album With the Beatles is an amazing breakthrough, in terms of studio innovations, guitar parts, (listen to John's rythym on "All My Loving") Also, by the time their second album was being put together, they were spending more time putting together 14 track lps. (Their debut was put together in a very short amount of time). Studio effects such as double-tracking lead vocals were being used. Not to mention that their songwriting had improved. By the time With the Beatles came out, the Beatles had already achieved success in England, and were on the brink of achieving huge success in America. Their single "I Want to Hold Your Hand" is one of the most important songs of 1964, because of the impact it had on the American audiences. It was the song that introduced them to the Beatles. "Meet the Beatles" is one of the most important albums in America, despite whether or not you agree with the idea of Capitol tampering with the Beatles' original albums. To America, in 1964, they saw the Beatles as a young, fresh group with their own sound. And Meet the Beatles not only showcased the advancement of studio techniques seen in With the Beatles, but showcased the songwriting talents of John and Paul early on.

In 1964, the same year that they achieved HUGE success in America, many things started to change. For example, with their third album, A Hard Day's Night they began to write songs quicker, and their lyrics started to change, and in many cases became more introspective, especially with John Lennon, which is a pre-cursor to John's writing on Beatles for Sale, which is very personal to John and would be a recurring theme for John in years to come.

Now that I've gotten past that, I'm going to try and summarise as best I can why I love the Beatles so much. I think what makes the Beatles so great is the songwriting team of John Lennon and Paul McCartney who were experts at writing song lyrics, and wriitng great melodies for their lyrics, along with George Harrison's guitar, and Ringo's creative, and unique drumming style. Not to mention their great ability for track orders, the producer they had (George Martin) is an amazing producer, and always knew what was best. Their music just means a lot to me, they were the first band that I fell in love with. What I love about John's lyrics is that though they were usually used to describe his feelings, they can be applied to other things. Paul was a master at writing feel-good happy songs, but at the time could write beautiful piano ballads. Not to mention John and Paul's songwriting, but George's songwriting definitely became a factor in the latter half of their career. It's fun to see how much George developed as a songwriter over the years, and how much he added to the sound of the Beatles' records.

Really all the Beatles worked together, so that no Beatles' record really belonged to a certain member. Really, it may have been more one Beatle's than another's (Pepper and Abbey Road come to mind) but not to the point to say that it belongs to one Beatle. Each Beatle brought something to each song and each album, whether it be a melody, lyrics, sound effects, an idea, a spoken bit, a little something to each song, to make it something special. So in closing, what i love about the Beatles' is their ability as a cohesive unit. How they compliment each other so well, while not being the technically best musicians. They were just a band..that made it very very big, that's all. : )

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This Eric-Aaron fued is taking up too much space.
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Woof Oink Baaa Wrote:
Topazzz Wrote:Hey Woofie, what's with all the Beatle hatred all of a sudden? ??? (Not that there's anything wrong with that. I mean, I like The Beatles, they were my first "favorite band" and will always have a special place in my heart, but I realize they weren't perfect...I guess I'm just wondering where this came from.) *shrugs* Anyway. Peace out! Cool

(Peace is better than The Beatles, yeah?) :;):
It's not that I hate The Beatles, it's just that I think they're immensely overrated. I wish people would start seeing them for what they were: a group of four decent musicians that happened to have a good sense of melody. They were very innovative, yes, but not a great band by any means.
Agreed. Basically, the Beatles have some good hits. That's my opinion of them. They were influential, and they had good hits. That's about it.

As for the "concept" album point that is sometimes brought up, I wonder what this means... Sgt Peppers? Ya, right. If that's a concept album, so is my Jefferson Airplane: White Rabbit & Other Hits album (aside from being a greatest hits compilation). Not only is the concept poorly backed, but aside from the famous songs, it pretty much sucks. I mean, it's filler. I've had the thing since early July, and continually tried to get into it and... no. It's overrated.

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10-29-2006 12:37 AM
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Woofie you're being very provocative. Or trying to be. Well, we refuse to rise.

:D

Seriously. I suspect most of you know better. Either that or you really don't know a thing about music and pop culture. Not being into them is one thing. Not being able to grasp why they are considered great and are most certainly not overrated is something completely different. Maybe a book or two on the subject would enlighten those having difficulty understanding that they were a hell of a lot more than just some band that had some hits. Yeah, and Beethoven just wrote some pretty good symphonies or something. I guess he had a good sense of melody too but what has he done for us lately? So sad. glare
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cevor Wrote:hmmm...uh...errr..let me get back to you...
uhhhhh...mmmmm....????????.....nothing still....oh yea! how about..no...
yea, yea, sex is better than the Beatles...that is all....please follow Floors instructions as you usually do Woofie! :p

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What am I, his master? :Oo:
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no, he just acts that way Floor

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Sadie Wrote:Woofie you're being very provocative. Or trying to be. Well, we refuse to rise.

:D

Seriously. I suspect most of you know better. Either that or you really don't know a thing about music and pop culture. Not being into them is one thing. Not being able to grasp why they are considered great and are most certainly not overrated is something completely different. Maybe a book or two on the subject would enlighten those having difficulty understanding that they were a hell of a lot more than just some band that had some hits. Yeah, and Beethoven just wrote some pretty good symphonies or something. I guess he had a good sense of melody too but what has he done for us lately? So sad. glare
A book?! I have to read a book to understand The Beatles' music?!

Ludicrous! :laugh:

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I love how SERIOUS everyone is acting about this. Seriously. Taking a silly little thread and turning it into "GAAAAHHHH NO ONE CAN HATE THE BEATLES, YOU STUPID FACE!!!!!"

I'm just gonna go on record by saying, whatever the Beatles did, Frank Zappa did first. And even if he didn't do it first, he did it better. :)
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