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Dydion · 07-29-2005 02:43 PM

They did not tour to promote the album. If anything, the album promoted the shows. It was a grand-scale operation from almost the start. The shows were immense, grandiose, and absolutely cinematic even by today's standards. It would translate very well into a broadway play if the stage is big enough. Have you ever seen the Nassau video?

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Dave_Tv · 07-30-2005 09:38 PM

Here's a quote from Roger in the 1999 MOJO interview......

Quote:So Rick sat in the studio - he would arrive exactly on time, which was very unusual, and stay to the bitter end every night. One day Ezrin said to me - he was slightly irked by this brooding presence very occasionally going "I don't like that" - "Why's Rick here again?" I said, "Don't you get it? He's putting in the time to prove he's a record producer. You talk to him about it." So he did. After that Rick never came to another session, unless he was directly asked to do keyboard tracks. And he became almost incapable of playing any keyboards anyway. It was a nightmare. I think that was the beginning of the end.

mabewa · 07-31-2005 01:29 AM

Well, the producer story is widely agreed on, and it's also agreed on the Rick wasn't being too productive, either, but the other members have also commented that Roger was browbeating Rick so much that he lost all confidence in his own playing. Dave has also said that he, Dave, felt that Rick wasn't pulling his own weight, but he thought that no-one had a right to kick Rick out of the band. At one time, Roger claimed that not only did Dave agree with him on kicking on Rick, Dave also suggested kicking out Nick as well. In all due respect to Roger, I don't really buy his side of the story on this particular issue.

~~Scream Thy Last Scream~~ · 07-31-2005 01:59 PM

we also have to remember that there were only 20 shows, worldwide. if you consider other bands at the time doing a world tour, the cost would more or less equal out. so i dont think cost came into it. the auditoriums and stadiums were sold out. merchandie was sold out. the album was sold out and the movie was seen by millions around the world on its first opening (including me and my brother). so they didnt lose anything i dont think on touring.

what you have to remember is that back in 1979, it was all grunt work. the main salary then was won by roadies and crew. its not like now. whaere anything goes, and you dont even have to sing. pink floyd did what they could. they always had. look at pompeii. it sold nothing on its release, but imagine if dvd was around then?

the interviews from the dark side of the moon say it all. they never relied on machinery. and like the wall, they relyied on thier instruments.

violeteyes · 07-31-2005 06:08 PM

I would like to see a book written for Rick (but not being controlled for any of the others members), I think he knows very well what happen inside (very deep) of Pink Floyd from Syd's breakdown to the Roger's anger, Rick looks to me like a sad man with a mellow personality, not the agresive one. I love the guy. It's only my opinion.

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Meg · 07-31-2005 11:28 PM

I don't think he will. Rick is not someone who would do such a thing behind the Pink Floyds guys' back, and certainly not after 7/2/2005. By the way he was clearly enough about the clash between Roger and him during interviews ("Rogers ego was greater than the Wall where he was writing about"). Nick is in my opinion the best one who could write a book.

violeteyes · 08-01-2005 03:55 AM

Yes, he never will write a book dissing his bandmates, but he knows very well what happen, it's for sure, but like I said he is not the kind of agressive person, he seems to be a very sweet guy, I would like to see Rick to be more outspoken but I think he never changes his position.

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I am practicing my english... excuse me any english "disaster"

Jumpy · 08-01-2005 01:13 PM

Dydion Wrote:They did not tour to promote the album.

That's the only reason anybody tours... well, most musicians. Certainly, they didn't tour because they ENJOYED it. By that time, Roger hated touring.

Live shows are all about selling records -- even when that's not necessarily the intention, as was the case with the soaring CD sales right after Live 8.

Great Plum · 08-02-2005 07:25 AM

Thanks for all your answers. It seems that he lost his confidence to play the keyboards well due to all those factors.

**scarlet eagle** · 08-02-2005 03:23 PM

I don't think that he lost any confidence.

It's no secret that Waters and Wright didn't get along from the beginning. When it was Syds band, Wright was the 2nd most important member. When Syd went, it was between Wright and Waters to get things rolling. It was kind of a competition. Waters came out on top, not only because of his increasing talent at songwriting, but also because of Wright eased off - it's his personality. Probably after Meddle, Waters became increasingly harder to with (for). Wright's material was turned down more and more often. By The Wall, Waters was in full command and barely even let Gilmour contribute. Wright may not have contributed anything because he probably had "given up". Why wouldn't Waters kick Mason out for not contributing? Also, The Wall was a Water's thing from the beginning.

I don't buy the "Rick's keyboard playing wasn't up to par." It may be that it wasn't exactly what Waters wanted. He replaced Nick Mason on Two Suns In The Sunset because Mason wasn't drumming like Waters wanted it.

Waters even went as far as insinuating that Wright had a cocaine problem. Wet Dream was released around the same time as The Wall. It doesn't sound to me like Wright was suffering from a cocaine problem or lack of confidence.

Anyway, it was good to see them together on 7/2.

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